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STEEZUS_CHRI5TI agree. "That's it That's All" is a snowboarding movie and I prefer it over any ski movie.
Although it's snowboarding, it's still able to capture that mountain sport feeling/energy better than any ski movie can.
the level of riding and shooting is just a step above most others esp at that time. i wish it was edited a bit more like a normal movie and it gets a little hokey at times but god damn they rip it so fucking hard in that movie
Farmville420Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol
Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
Definitely agree. Like watching snowboarding and skating videos is sick for inspiration and so much influence and style flows from them, but yeah just how you ski is so different being on two boards instead of one and in a totally different stance. It needs to be shown as its own thing and not trying to copy skate styles so much
nCrowDefinitely agree. Like watching snowboarding and skating videos is sick for inspiration and so much influence and style flows from them, but yeah just how you ski is so different being on two boards instead of one and in a totally different stance. It needs to be shown as its own thing and not trying to copy skate styles so much
Exactly! Like it’s fine to use a fisheye when it actually enhances the shot (Keegan lip 2 ender in ETG was tasteful asf) but people should try and create their own culture and film styles instead of just doing literally exactly what skateboarding does lol
yeah im mostly saying that because most filmers simply think slapping a fisheye on will somehow increase the quality of the shot. it wont. the whole purpose of a fisheye lense is to make the center of the shot appear closer while still showcasing the rest of the environment.
im not a big urban/rail guy, but i can see how filming a street edit with a fisheye would be a practical option. it makes more sense in that scenario.
i think a majority of skiing looks a lot better when shot long lens while stationary though. maybe thats just because i prefer to watch dudes drop cliffs/hit booters/ski pow. but i would also say the same for a street edit. i think a lot of shots that people "folllow cam" would genuinely look better stationary. the only time a follow cam is really necessary IMO is for a 3 or 4 trick line. people just wanna be like skaters so they follow cam every god damn clip and it looks terrible
also i think fisheyes are just getting a little played out. wish more people would shoot stationary. zoom is your friend in the videography world
Farmville420Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol
Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
then how should it be presented? there’s very few ways to actually differ from anybody regarding filming styles. should skiers be strictly filmed long lens shots with zero variability in zoom because it’s copying skateboarding? should any fisheye clip that isnt shit be invalidated because it was filmed like skateboarders do? literally every skill and technique that makes your filming look less shit comes from skateboarding. are you a filmer? if you think it’s annoying and goofy then what’s your solution?
Fisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
a_burgerFisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
don’t you film on an hmc which has a massive reach on an opteka fisheye?
a_burgerFisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
I have an HMC150 with an Opteka fisheye, I zoom in at Z14 so there's less vignette and it looks good. I prefer vignette to no vignette. I had a t3i with a rokinon 8mm fisheye and it had no vignette and it's just not the same
Farmville420Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol
Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
I thought it would be common sense to find the edit as absolute garbage. That was the worst fucking thing I've ever seen. It hurt my eyes watching it. I didn't make it past a minute and a half. Did they eventually show some skiing in this skiing edit? I'm so intrigued! "Slow burn", yeah it was fucking slow alright.
skiermanI thought it would be common sense to find the edit as absolute garbage. That was the worst fucking thing I've ever seen. It hurt my eyes watching it. I didn't make it past a minute and a half. Did they eventually show some skiing in this skiing edit? I'm so intrigued! "Slow burn", yeah it was fucking slow alright.
skierman hates any person with remotely impressive fisheye clips and immersive long lens shots
a_burgerFisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
Filming fisheye is a skill. When done right it's really sick, when done wrong, it's hard to tell there's anyone even skiing in the frame. It's a tool like anything else and isn't great for most jumps. It's a specific look that should be used in certain situations. I have done some cool fisheye follow cam jump shit but man it is scary with how close you have to be haha. Turns out sick though if you have the balls to be 3 feet from them in the air
Jemsthen how should it be presented? there’s very few ways to actually differ from anybody regarding filming styles. should skiers be strictly filmed long lens shots with zero variability in zoom because it’s copying skateboarding? should any fisheye clip that isnt shit be invalidated because it was filmed like skateboarders do? literally every skill and technique that makes your filming look less shit comes from skateboarding. are you a filmer? if you think it’s annoying and goofy then what’s your solution?
“It’s an unpopular opinion I don’t need to elaborate”
your words not mine lol
idk the solution, but trying to recreate pussy gangster on skis is not it lol
Jemsdon’t you film on an hmc which has a massive reach on an opteka fisheye?
fredyferlI have an HMC150 with an Opteka fisheye, I zoom in at Z14 so there's less vignette and it looks good. I prefer vignette to no vignette. I had a t3i with a rokinon 8mm fisheye and it had no vignette and it's just not the same
Yeah I had that same HMC setup with the opteka and the vignette was huge, I’d usually scale the image up to 114ish percent so it was just in the corners, the sensor in my camera was also kinda loose so it wasn’t symmetrical and looked weird without editing. I ruined a ton of footy once leaving it out of focus by zooming through it too so I kinda avoid that I still love that setup but like said it only works well in certain cases.
Use a DVX-FEWA bayonet mount wide angle quite a bit now instead and like it a lot more especially for follows on jumps, and got a hcx1000 last spring since my HMC pretty much fell apart
**This post was edited on Nov 18th 2022 at 4:51:38pm
sindreplassentrue, skiing doesn’t have a colton feldman or a bryden bowley. kinda tired of some of the “super 8” clips a lot of snowboarders throw in their vids though
bryden shoots real super 8 :). Super nice dude also. Absolute wizard with the cam and on the production side. all his videos have a beautiful patina. he’s also a pretty damn stylish rider too
the proliferation of contrarian trolls around here is annoying as fuck. I'm believe it's a because these sad ass MFers are so lonely and starved for some sort of attention, that any response to their post neg or pos helps fill the void in their pathetic attempt at life. HEY LOOK AT ME!! SAMMY CARLSON SUCKS! THOSE DUDES DON"T USE THE RIGHT CAMERA! it's just a cry for help that ultimately just makes me feel sorry for you more than hate.
but just about every crew hitting street in the past few years is filming just like skateboarders do which creates higher quality action shots
Idk, I think a better way to film skiing would be like Dom / Karsten from this yuto goto cut. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1055637/YUTO-GOTO---ASAYAKE-BLUE---FIFTH-ELEMENT-SKATES
Like, they are combining long lens shots with the dynamics of a fisheye and I think it looks amazing. I never see this style and I think it’s the perfect fit for skiing but also not really practical because it involves so much talent that it’s not as accessible as just mimicking Strobeast and fucking around with a fisheye without really knowing what ur doing. Ur not really wrong about anything but I’m just bitching about people not exploring as much as I would like
3maniathe proliferation of contrarian trolls around here is annoying as fuck. I'm believe it's a because these sad ass MFers are so lonely and starved for some sort of attention, that any response to their post neg or pos helps fill the void in their pathetic attempt at life. HEY LOOK AT ME!! SAMMY CARLSON SUCKS! THOSE DUDES DON"T USE THE RIGHT CAMERA! it's just a cry for help that ultimately just makes me feel sorry for you more than hate.
WoFlowzbryden shoots real super 8 :). Super nice dude also. Absolute wizard with the cam and on the production side. all his videos have a beautiful patina. he’s also a pretty damn stylish rider too
ye its sick, but I think it can be a little too much at times. still really enjoy his videos tho, fly away closer was dope as hell
Farmville420Idk, I think a better way to film skiing would be like Dom / Karsten from this yuto goto cut. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1055637/YUTO-GOTO---ASAYAKE-BLUE---FIFTH-ELEMENT-SKATES
Like, they are combining long lens shots with the dynamics of a fisheye and I think it looks amazing. I never see this style and I think it’s the perfect fit for skiing but also not really practical because it involves so much talent that it’s not as accessible as just mimicking Strobeast and fucking around with a fisheye without really knowing what ur doing. Ur not really wrong about anything but I’m just bitching about people not exploring as much as I would like
Farmville420Idk, I think a better way to film skiing would be like Dom / Karsten from this yuto goto cut. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1055637/YUTO-GOTO---ASAYAKE-BLUE---FIFTH-ELEMENT-SKATES
Like, they are combining long lens shots with the dynamics of a fisheye and I think it looks amazing. I never see this style and I think it’s the perfect fit for skiing but also not really practical because it involves so much talent that it’s not as accessible as just mimicking Strobeast and fucking around with a fisheye without really knowing what ur doing. Ur not really wrong about anything but I’m just bitching about people not exploring as much as I would like
Dom's style is super unique both Vine Street movies are so sick. Blading is tight
snowmosexualDynafit bros make me want to snowmobile
as someone who loves to tour, and engages in it frequently, i agree with u.
homies be looking like some wealthy ass goofballs.
i love passing them on the way up on my heavy ass setup tho lol. the look in there eyes as they realize there 4,000$ touring gear doesnt actually make them that much faster is priceless. go to the gym if you want to be quicker uphill
cant lie tho, dynafit radicals are the best pin bindings on the market rn. lowkey boutta buy a pair
chumbawumbaas someone who loves to tour, and engages in it frequently, i agree with u.
homies be looking like some wealthy ass goofballs.
i love passing them on the way up on my heavy ass setup tho lol. the look in there eyes as they realize there 4,000$ touring gear doesnt actually make them that much faster is priceless. go to the gym if you want to be quicker uphill
cant lie tho, dynafit radicals are the best pin bindings on the market rn. lowkey boutta buy a pair
wait what i thought salomon shifts were the best. im confused now
snowmosexualDynafit bros make me want to snowmobile
-sled skiing is sick, no doubt, but sleds can only go up a certain steepness with two people, otherwise you are doomed ghosting your sled down the hill.
-getting the nicest cols and pitches, you need to bootpack or skin from your sled anyways.
-lots of nice mountains ranges are in parks where no motorized vehicles are permitted.
chumbawumbahomies be looking like some wealthy ass goofballs.
i love passing them on the way up on my heavy ass setup tho lol. the look in there eyes as they realize there 4,000$ touring gear doesnt actually make them that much faster is priceless. go to the gym if you want to be quicker uphill
the way i see it, while nice/light touring gear can make you quicker, most people buy it so its less effort. you can go higher/further on the same amount of energy.
ajbski-sled skiing is sick, no doubt, but sleds can only go up a certain steepness with two people, otherwise you are doomed ghosting your sled down the hill.
-getting the nicest cols and pitches, you need to bootpack or skin from your sled anyways.
-lots of nice mountains ranges are in parks where no motorized vehicles are permitted.
the way i see it, while nice/light touring gear can make you quicker, most people buy it so its less effort. you can go higher/further on the same amount of energy.
There’s downhill performance sacrifice with lighter gear. I’d rather pull heavy skis to the top and be able to rip down.
Sleds are really fun. Just cause you might still have to boot or skin to get up the last 600-1000ft+ doesn’t diminish the pony ride
snowmosexualThere’s downhill performance sacrifice with lighter gear. I’d rather pull heavy skis to the top and be able to rip down.
Sleds are really fun. Just cause you might still have to boot or skin to get up the last 600-1000ft+ doesn’t diminish the pony ride
yea no doubt. it def depends on what youre doing tho. if youre walking far away from any sort of help, in less than ideal weather shituations, getting injured is just not an option. dragging someone just 5km from a trailhead can easily take like 10 hours to get them back. you can get really gnarly in the bc, but is it worth the risk?
my side country skis (faction prodigy 3.0, with shifts and ranger free 130s) can charge pretty hard, but i dont.
for sure. sleds are dope. i just dont get what sleds and dynafit bros have to do with eachother? are there actually any people out there that would pick skinning 10km over sledding 10km? a $2000 touring set up can reliably get you way further into any mountains than a $2000 sled.
ajbskiyea no doubt. it def depends on what youre doing tho. if youre walking far away from any sort of help, in less than ideal weather shituations, getting injured is just not an option. dragging someone just 5km from a trailhead can easily take like 10 hours to get them back. you can get really gnarly in the bc, but is it worth the risk?
my side country skis (faction prodigy 3.0, with shifts and ranger free 130s) can charge pretty hard, but i dont.
for sure. sleds are dope. i just dont get what sleds and dynafit bros have to do with eachother? are there actually any people out there that would pick skinning 10km over sledding 10km? a $2000 touring set up can reliably get you way further into any mountains than a $2000 sled.
I’ve had people talk down to me in bars cause I sled for touring/ski access versus just touring. That’s what it’s got to do with dynafit bros.
a huge advantage to having sleds is being able to self rescue in a crew.
a $2000 sled is asking for trouble unless you’re a better mechanic than most
snowmosexualI’ve had people talk down to me in bars cause I sled for touring/ski access versus just touring. That’s what it’s got to do with dynafit bros.
they're just jealous that they cant afford a $20,000 mountain sled and a vehicle to haul it around. its kind of a no brainer if you live somewhere you can use it.
im just surprised. ive never heard of that before.
This has probably already been said, but people who can barely ski yet throw down the sketchiest cork 7s and front swaps piss me off to no end. I feel like they get no satisfaction from the fundamentals of skiing
hdubsThis has probably already been said, but people who can barely ski yet throw down the sketchiest cork 7s and front swaps piss me off to no end. I feel like they get no satisfaction from the fundamentals of skiing
This is how I feel watching Big Air events lately.
hdubsThis has probably already been said, but people who can barely ski yet throw down the sketchiest cork 7s and front swaps piss me off to no end. I feel like they get no satisfaction from the fundamentals of skiing
Those guys eventually get good though. Having the balls to try stuff feels like a bigger indicator of potential in the park than good fundamentals IMO.
