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A look inside the Newschoolers Yearbook

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JP and Guillaume just posted this on their FB page... Enjoy!

Crésus was in charge of the artistic direction for the Newschoolers.com magazine – the first truly crowd-sourced magazine featuring the year’s best skiing content. An annual compilation of the most popular pictures, videos, forum threads and news stories from the past year, produced into a high-quality collectible magazine masterfully curated by a massive community of passionate skiers.

Show Crésus some love by "Appreciating" this project on Behance... and pickup your copy in the NS Store today!

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Photos by Audric Gagnon
Nov 5 2013 4:03PM
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Turkelton
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I wouldn't pay for that.


btw, every user having a yearbook photo would be awesome for next year
Nov 6 2013 11:01AM
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We have about 30k active users... so that's out of the question haha

With that being said, I'd love to include a headshot collage of every single contributor next year. Just an idea at this point though.
Nov 6 2013 11:08AM
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Zimmy
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Nice of you. But you absolutely don't have to. Grind could be licensing stuff out behind the scenes...

... not that important to me right now, but good to know.

The colab there was a ton of documentation to go through, and some control as to how it would be portrayed in the credits. In fact, the whole documentation was a big pain and there was music documentation.

I'd make the whole crowd-sourcing direction more formal.. you even get some better content. The risk is I could take other people's content and use it as my own.


Nov 6 2013 11:10AM
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Thanks for the advice.
Nov 6 2013 11:13AM
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Mr.Bishop
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To be completely honest with you, this is an absolutely standard legal agreement for any website. Unless you hold onto your negatives yourself on your own computer, you're basically licensing for free everything you upload. We've always been very clear about this fact, and have never, ever hid it.

The thing that we do here is take a more modern approach, where we know that if we compensate, work with and treat well our content contributors - we will get a ton of better content in the future.

The problem with the yearbook is we built it in secret. So we only contacted people after their media qualified. They were all given the option to say no, and we respect that fact. We always will. We'll even update our upload system to have you pre-agree to allowing your content to be included, sign the agreement and enter payment details. We're doing this for all of our monetization systems eventually.

Sure, we should have more clear policies about the yearbook... but we wanted this to be exciting when it came out, and we didn't want anyone to know about it until it was already ready. Things have gotten so stale out there, we wanted to bring something truly new to market. You know now, and now we can work better to educate and involve all content creators as we go.

My big advice - if you're paranoid about content licensing, be very careful about sharing ANYTHING. Facebook, instagram, Flickr, etc. all have pretty gnarly blanket statements about ownership.
Nov 6 2013 11:36AM
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Zimmy
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Nahh, I'm not mad, not even almost. It was a just a bit of surprise.. thanks for clarifying... maybe if it were in the original post.
Nov 6 2013 12:02PM
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onenerdykid
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Got ours at the Atomic HQ here in Austria, and this is such an awesome piece of work. Congrats on a job well done, rad as hell!
Nov 6 2013 12:22PM
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cwphoto
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Would i be able to get it at somewhere like books & co or barnes and noble? I cant think of too many places i ohio that would have it. Do you know if you shipped to any shops in ohio, like aspen ski and board?
Nov 6 2013 12:39PM
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We'll have a complete list of all newsstand locations in the next week or so.
Nov 6 2013 12:47PM
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MacMahoooon
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Good rule of thumb here, if you could buy a copy of Powder at any of those places, it is quite likely there will be a couple copies of the Yearbook there as well
Nov 6 2013 2:32PM
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That is, if there's any left ;)
Nov 6 2013 2:33PM
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Nov 6 2013 2:56PM
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At Barnes and Nobles on 5th ave in NYC

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Nov 6 2013 3:51PM
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Turkelton
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Any near Bend, Oregon?????!!!!!!!!!!!! I need this picked up by a friend.
Nov 6 2013 4:09PM
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rsvp
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this is sick!
Nov 6 2013 4:26PM
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JAHpow
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Mine just came in the. About to open it...








No words except "beautiful"
Nov 6 2013 5:15PM
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JAHpow
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came in the *mail
Nov 6 2013 5:47PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Saw a few at my local ski shop today.
Nov 6 2013 5:49PM
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Japaneezy
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I wish you guys could make the international shipping costs a Lil bit cheaper... Debating whether I should spend 40$ for shipping a magazine.
Nov 6 2013 5:54PM
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Jaggy_Snake
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First of all, it's a great idea what Newschoolers has done, producing an annual to sell in shops/the online store.


*Unpopular opinion incoming*


But looking at the above photo, it's just all the same content that has been on the site over the last year(?), so there isn't anything new that is in it.


Other than supporting the site, what other good reason is there to purchase this?

(Not that I would anyway with the stupidly high shipping price to the EU)...
Nov 6 2013 6:57PM
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goodnoooo
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just got mine at barnes and noble! it is really beautiful. good work
Nov 6 2013 7:08PM
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stupendous-man
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Got mine today! Before reading it cover to cover just now, I was flipping through it and noticed one of my posts was published! (What Got You Into Freeskiing, Page 13) It's an awesome feeling knowing I can walk in to Barnes and Nobles tomorrow and pick up the yearbook and find something I have written in it.
Nov 6 2013 9:20PM
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Kretzschmar
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i was so stoked to see my thread in there!
Nov 6 2013 11:00PM
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TOAST.
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The positive is not have to go through piles of shit to read the good content.

Nov 7 2013 11:58AM
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t_rob
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Am I the only one waiting for yobeat to say something about it?
Nov 7 2013 12:04PM
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trouble__maker
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Really stoked to get my hands on this!
Nov 8 2013 10:31AM
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SeanTom
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One of my copies came in the mail today and it's pretty fucking amazing. Quality of print is astounding and the execution of the crowd sourced concept is flawless. 10/10 would subscribe.

My only wish is that i can be a part of the next one!

and to find out what happened to my second copy.
Nov 8 2013 7:26PM
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ESB
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Yes, the Yearbook is a cumulation of all the best content on the site from the past year, so it's all stuff that's already on the site, except for the main feature article (which is new).

However, even if you log on every single day, the ceaseless flow of content that is Newschoolers makes it highly unlikely that you will have already seen 100% of the content that went into the Yearbook.

I log into NS more than most people, and I still hadn't seen most of the stuff in the Yearbook before.

Even if you ARE a super-duper Newschoolers nerd and have seen every single thing that's in the Yearbook already, there is great value in a high-quality printed publication. Photos that you've already seen on a computer screen come to life when they're printed in a magazine in your hands for you to ogle over.

You can't take a nice photo off Newschoolers and pin it up on your wall - but you can with the Yearbook.

Plus, every Yearbook purchase makes it more viable that this will happen again. This might be the only one ever made, so you better get your hands on it while you can. :)
Nov 9 2013 5:18PM
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Purchased mine 2 weeks ago (October 26th), and still haven't received a link to track my order. I don't know if this means it hasn't been shipped out yet, or if there's some kind of long wait? Any idea how long it should take till it gets here?

I also ordered the Canada only version, if that helps. Thanks
Nov 9 2013 10:10PM
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They went out this week, so it should be there early next week depending on where you live (they ship from Montreal).
Nov 10 2013 8:06AM
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GayWolf420
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Gonna sell more than cocksures snowblades, thats a given.
Nov 10 2013 11:11AM
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broto
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i might buy another one to cut out pictures to hang up n shit
Nov 10 2013 9:23PM
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Anathema
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does 4chan or reddit have a magazine?


i would hope not. we dont need an ns magazine. the internet forum that is newschoolers.com is the magazine. but nice cash grab, i guess?
Nov 10 2013 9:33PM
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littlelyonsman
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All the one's with stickers are already out of stock!!!

Nov 10 2013 9:35PM
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looks sick. any idea where I could pick one up in the Summit County area next weekend?
Nov 11 2013 12:07AM
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McLS
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But newscoolers.com is much more than just a community website. Do you know any 4chan or reddit members that hung out together just by knowing each other on the internet? No.
And how are you even comparing ns to some teen trolling shitty websites for children who have no fucking social life??

NS is the core of freeskiing and does deserve a yearbook, that members will be able to read after a few years and remember the highlights of the sport and community. +it has sick pics +it has awesome sticker packs +its really cheap (the magazine itself, not the international shipping of course) so no, its not a nice cash grab but an awesome initiative for the community
Nov 11 2013 5:21AM
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NH_OPERATOR
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Not to detract from your point, but both 4chan and reddit do meetups fairly regularly.
Nov 11 2013 5:27AM
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They probably don't, but what does that have to do with us making a Magazine? We're not reddit. We're not 4chan.

We're Newschoolers. We're more than a forum. We're more than a link sharing site. We're more than a social and content platform. We're a community of like-minded individuals who absolutely fucking love everything about skiing.

Nice cash grab? What would you call Freeskier and Powder Magazine then?

We do one issue a year, capped at 30 ads, sold at $3,000 a page. We don't do any advertorial.
Freeskier does seven issues a year, sold at $9,360 a page. Freeskier does advertorial every single issue.
Powder does seven issues a year, sold at $10,175 a page. Powder has a entire issue dedicated to advertorial.

We pay our contributors great rates -- and put the profit we make from the magazine right back into our content programs. Preorders from the Magazine have already allowed us to increase budgets for our journalist and NSTV programs.

If this issue does as well as I'm hoping it will do, I plan on increasing our photo and word payouts in order to have the highest rates out of all the ski magazines. Right now, we're hooking photographers up with $350 for a spread -- not bad for a photo you uploaded for free nine months ago.

Where else can someone have the chance to get a cover shot for a magazine that's being distributed across the globe? How many Freeskier covers were shot by Nate or Chris? I was the Photo Editor for SBC Skier before coming to Newschoolers -- and what got me so excited about this project was the fact that we could remove the bro factor of traditional print media.
Nov 11 2013 10:03AM
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NH_OPERATOR
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Wow 10gs a page? Holy hell. I guess I never really thought about how much those ads must cost.
Nov 11 2013 10:12AM
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fortyvalve
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going to look around some barnes & noble in Rhode Island today to see if i can snag a copy
Nov 11 2013 10:14AM
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Anathema
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the idea of purchasing a magazine that is basically just a compilation of internet forum material and pictures that i already have full easy access to, to me, is pointless.

didn't you guys try something like this before with skeeze magazine? i don't even remember what that was all about, but where did that go?

I wouldnt read reddit magazine to see a compilation of their material. i wouldn't read facebook magazine to see a compilation of interesting articles and pictures that people put up, or stats on what is most liked and most commented on. i wouldn't read youtube magazine to get the scoop on what videos are trending and what news i can gather.

break.com pays video uploaders $250 if your free-to-upload video hits the home page. so this justifies them making a break.com magazine full of their content too? i don't understand the point you're trying to make by saying you hook up photographers with $350 for a spread. if it's just a random fact, cool, im glad you pay out a small fraction of what you profit. but it still doesn't justify why an internet website needs its own magazine full of the same, yet condensed material taken from screen and put on paper with a price tag slapped on it.

i dont hate on skiing, i hate on people that really just try to sell you anything (or more of the same but in a different way). yeah i know, that's business. but i don't have to like it.
Nov 11 2013 11:09AM
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DrZoidberg
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B and (non breaking space) N meaning barnes and noble? If so, would all of them have it, or only certain ones? There's one sort of near me, but I'm not in like breck or some ski town.
Nov 11 2013 11:33AM
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the idea of purchasing a magazine that is basically just a compilation of internet forum material and pictures that i already have full easy access to, to me, is pointless.

Then don't purchase one -- we're not forcing it down your throat. You didn't have to click this thread. You didn't have to post a reply. I know it's your opinion and you want to get it heard -- but making assumptions about it just being a "cash grab" is pretty ignorant IMO.

didn't you guys try something like this before with skeeze magazine? i don't even remember what that was all about, but where did that go?

No, that was K2.

I wouldnt read reddit magazine to see a compilation of their material. i wouldn't read facebook magazine to see a compilation of interesting articles and pictures that people put up, or stats on what is most liked and most commented on. i wouldn't read youtube magazine to get the scoop on what videos are trending and what news i can gather.

I wouldn't read a reddit, Facebook, or Youtube magazine either. What's your point?

break.com pays video uploaders $250 if your free-to-upload video hits the home page. so this justifies them making a break.com magazine full of their content too?

If that's something their members want, then why not?

Again, what does this have to do with our magazine? You're reaching very far with a lot of these comparisons.

i don't understand the point you're trying to make by saying you hook up photographers with $350 for a spread. if it's just a random fact, cool, im glad you pay out a small fraction of what you profit. but it still doesn't justify why an internet website needs its own magazine full of the same, yet condensed material taken from screen and put on paper with a price tag slapped on it.

Did you forget the fact that you called it a cash grab? Do you realize that people are STOKED on the concept? Did you miss the part where I said all the money we make off the magazine simply goes back into making the website more badass? Did you know that we pay our content creators for the videos, photos, and news they upload? Does that bother you? Should we not try and find better ways to distribute the little money available in the industry? What about the fact that every single person I've spoken to who has content in the magazine (whether it be a photo, video, news article, thread, comment, reply, etc.) is fucking AMPED that they could go to their local Barnes & Nobles and pick up a copy.

Are you content with Freeskier and Powder being the two media heavyweights in North America? Are you that opposed to there being an alternative?

You've been on Newschoolers long enough to realize that not everything we do is driven by money....
Nov 11 2013 11:47AM
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Mr.Bishop
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People also make money off of content being on the website. So you can doubly monetize... and this has nothing to do with making the magazine, but it is just letting people know we're not simply taking content and profiting off of it. Its an ecosystem.

Now, the key to why the yearbook exists for you is that basically it doesn't. Someone who logs onto Newschoolers 200+ times per month likely has seen everything that would be in there. In that case, the purpose of the Yearbook would be to collect something physical that gives a condensed version of the year.

The second target is the people that really like reading print, like newschoolers, but only log on once per month. Those people have not even come close to seeing all the good stuff, and they would enjoy a quick rundown in a high-quality print format. To them, the stories are all new.

Frankly in the end, if you don't want a printed magazine then its absolutely not targeted at you. We haven't forced this on anyone, and if you think its stupid then just keep being a part of the website and you should be good to go. You can even simply view top rated stuff when you're looking for nostalgia so you can get the digital version of the experience.

This is why we didn't make a digital version. We didn't want one... the digital experience of Newschoolers is already there and if thats what you want then awesome! Keep at it. This was to give a new experience to some of our members, and something that others can enjoy too.

Remember, Newschoolers is unlike facebook, twitter, reddit, etc. in the way that it has been shifting into a community of content creators. So the people that create content on here (not just share or discuss) want opportunities to showcase their work in new formats to new audiences, while making money. This project fits that perfectly.

There is no precedent out there for what we're doing, as something like this has absolutely never been done before.
Nov 11 2013 11:49AM
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It's a yearbook and a collectible item. It's nice to have a real product in your hand. It's also targeted to other skiers, snow sports enthusiasts, action sports fans -- not just Newschoolers.com members.

Due note, the magazine DOES have exclusive content in it as well.

We also put a lot of effort into retouching the photos, editorializing text, and making sure everything fit well into its new medium. We didn't just copy/paste content in, but worked for more than a month curating and fine tuning everything.

We not forcing anyone to buy the magazine, but I will suggest you to look at it on newsstands. Now you're just complaining and you didn't even look at the product, which it’s pointless.

Nov 11 2013 12:22PM
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You don't get it.

The Yearbook isn't about SELLING something, regardless of what, for a profit. There isn't a single person involved in the project who's looking at it from that perspective.

I mean really. Who in their right mind who wants to make money would start a print magazine? ha ha ha. good joke.

No. Here's the point. Newschoolers has always created avenues of opportunity for its members through exposure and the chance to speak your mind in front of skiing's worldwide community. The Yearbook is an extension of that.

Imagine you took a nice picture of your buddy skiing. You post it up on Newschoolers, and it gets a lot of uprates because it's so darn nice.

Now at the end of the year, your photo has been uprated enough to make it into the Yearbook. Your photo gets published in a ski magazine (without you having to harangue a photo editor), and you get paid for it.

Now tell me that doesn't interest you.
Nov 11 2013 1:25PM
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stupendous-man
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I think NS is linked (owned?) by the same company that does Transworld stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it at your local B&N.
Nov 12 2013 4:07PM
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Just came in the mail today! Looks amazing! Great work on this guys, so stoked!
Nov 14 2013 1:29AM
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CheddarJack
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I am so unbelievably stoked my poem got a full page thread in the Yearbook. Thank you NS! Knowing my work is in a printed magazine that people can (and do!) buy is such a cool feeling. I had no idea that the feedback that I would get would be anywhere close to what I ended up getting on the site when I wrote it and this is the icing on the cake. I can't say having published literature was on my bucket list, but as soon as I found out about this, I added it to my list only to immediately check it off ;)

My copy came in the mail yesterday and I couldn't be happier with it. I must say my favorite part (although every page is awesome) is the Two Key Words article by Ethan Stone. It was so well done that I've read it multiple times already. I'm not normally one to read the really long articles in magazines, either.
Nov 14 2013 1:53AM
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