Member of the Month

hi_vis360
November, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Off Axis Spins with Grabs

profile picture
pgapro
Posts: 52 - Karma: 297
I know there are a lot of "which grab is best...." threads, but in this case the idea is not to personally get to know which grab I should try.
We are developping a guide for jumps and tricks, therefore it would be great to get some feedback on which grab fits best with which off axis jump.
This is meant by what makes the trick more easy and at the same time what maybe looks best. It should be in a realistic way, cork 7 octo will definetely look awesome, but is out of reach for most skiers as well!!

So here is for example what I was thinking about:
Flat 5 - japan (helps getting flat position)
Flat 5 - mute (easy grab, gives trick a different look than japan)

Basically suggestions should be 2 per trick, nice if leading or trailing is named as well

Here would be what I would think about:

Cork 3 - double safety / uncrossed mute

Cork 5 - mute / tail

Cork 7 - safety

Flat 3 - critical

Flat 5 - japan / mute

Bio 5 - mute

switch cork 5 - mute / critical

So would be nice to get some answers on favorite or ideal combinations, maybe explaining as well why it is ideal.
We can then build in the best combinations into our guide,

Thnx
Jun 16 2013 10:12AM
34 9
profile picture
DeRizzo
Posts: 3827 - Karma: 3,485
Ok well cork 7 blunt/tail definitely needs to be on there
Jun 16 2013 10:24AM
6 0
profile picture
JonasJuhler
Posts: 347 - Karma: 1,351
Cork 3 truck driver looks insanely good!
Jun 16 2013 11:07AM
2 0
profile picture
DosasNMimosas
Posts: 1701 - Karma: 664
flat 7 screamin seaman

Jun 16 2013 11:30AM
9 1
profile picture
JonasJuhler
Posts: 347 - Karma: 1,351
That is probably the most well executed trick on skis next to delormes cork 5
Jun 16 2013 11:39AM
2 2
profile picture
250r
Posts: 2276 - Karma: 1,013
i would say high safety is even easier than mute in a flat spin, really about the same as doing a japan.
Jun 16 2013 1:26PM
0 0
profile picture
At0micski
Posts: 256 - Karma: 169
i think tricks like cork 7 octo would look sick, and it isnt completely out of reach for skiers. If any tricks you pick out of reach, it would probably look sick, and it would help with progression anyway. And if you could get anything with a screamin semen,  that would be awesome.
Jun 16 2013 1:58PM
0 0
profile picture
ThundaKilla
Posts: 2859 - Karma: 3,781
Cork 7/9 True Nose
Jun 16 2013 4:26PM
1 0
profile picture
pgapro
Posts: 52 - Karma: 297
ok that sounds good, you mean grabbing it just in front of the binding or higher, more nose like?
Jun 16 2013 5:02PM
0 0
profile picture
TACO-DOG.exe
Posts: 11988 - Karma: 12,261
fuck you i'll do whatever grab i want.
Jun 16 2013 5:17PM
3 2
profile picture
pgapro
Posts: 52 - Karma: 297
Maybe you slightly misunderstood why I am posting this!! The guide I am talking about is not supposed to force people do something!! But to make people get some more creativity in their style and help them develop more creative tricks.
The fact that you do whatever you want might indicate that you are able to do a huge variation of grabs, so it would maybe be nice to share some information with others.
And if you don't care what is written here....then you maybe beter f..k off and do something else than reading this thread!!
But you are absolutely welcome to give some advice on which grab/spin combo to start first!!
Jun 16 2013 6:01PM
2 0
profile picture
OCM
Posts: 1276 - Karma: 975
cork 3 double safety
cork 5 tweaked safety
cork 7 blunt
cork 9 stalefish

flat 3 japan
flat 5 safety
flat 7 mute

rodeo 5 critical
rodeo 7 blunt
Jun 16 2013 6:44PM
1 0
profile picture
RaymondBabbitt
Posts: 10 - Karma: -2
QANTAS. QANTAS never crashed.
Jun 16 2013 7:05PM
1 0
profile picture
Zimmy
Posts: 1258 - Karma: -1,327
I think the future could be multiple grabs per air, and smooth grab transitions.. are people doing that yet?
Jun 17 2013 5:05AM
0 0
profile picture
Hughes
Posts: 1023 - Karma: 940
russ henshaw does them quite a bit. i think unless executed quite well they wouldn't look so good
Jun 17 2013 7:53AM
0 0
profile picture
Schlutz
Posts: 858 - Karma: 425
Mute to japan is often done and looks pretty good as well. I think one of the sickest grab swaps is stale to high safety. That looks so dope.
Jun 17 2013 11:30AM
0 0
profile picture
Schlutz
Posts: 858 - Karma: 425
Also, I've been wondering this for a while now. What do you call a critical pulled to mute? Is it just critical or just mute or something different?
Jun 17 2013 11:35AM
0 0
profile picture
Hughes
Posts: 1023 - Karma: 940
never seen that done before.
Jun 17 2013 12:07PM
0 0
profile picture
Zimmy
Posts: 1258 - Karma: -1,327
Thanks, I'm super inspired with what is possible.

dig this:


Jun 17 2013 12:57PM
0 1
profile picture
pgapro
Posts: 52 - Karma: 297
How about mute to leading tail? Might be the easiest combo helping the spin?
Jun 17 2013 1:02PM
0 0
profile picture
Stose
Posts: 7109 - Karma: 4,123
Gotta throw cork 5 Japan up there. One of the smoothest looking tricks
Jun 18 2013 4:59PM
0 0
profile picture
AHREN*
Posts: 153 - Karma: 2,031
agreed
Jul 14 2013 9:20PM
0 0
profile picture
magicalkitten
Posts: 224 - Karma: 316
Fancy seeing you here
Jul 15 2013 12:09AM
0 0
profile picture
-emile-
Posts: 6613 - Karma: 8,592
if by flat position you mean a slightly off axis backfip I agree the japan really helps
Jul 15 2013 1:28AM
1 0
profile picture
robotdna
Posts: 1232 - Karma: 2,959
Someone make GIF plz haha
Jul 15 2013 10:30AM
1 0
profile picture
SunburntSquad
Posts: 293 - Karma: 496
mute grabs force you to lean forwards, making them harder for corks
Jul 15 2013 4:16PM
0 2
profile picture
pgapro
Posts: 52 - Karma: 297
So mute would be perfect for bio 5?
Jul 17 2013 8:07AM
0 0
profile picture
-emile-
Posts: 6613 - Karma: 8,592
not true
Jul 17 2013 9:45PM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-5)