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Trouble With Tricks

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robotdna
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Yes, I am on Newschoolers, and yes, I admit, I am not a park skier.

I am however, a big mountain enthusiast that does racing on the side(yeah, racing, got a problem?).

I have recently been interested in learning to actually spin around and do some things, and the most I can manage is a 180. :( I can do a 360 when standing STILL, and I'm perfectly comfortable with aerials, but when I mix the two, it doesn't work. I try to lead with my head when spinning, and use my arms for momentum.  And yes, I can do all this on a trampoline.

What do you suggest to help me get over this "fear(I'm not sure if it is)"? How did you all start out with, besides being awesome on the first go?

Thank you all.
Jan 10 2013 2:21PM
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Amadeus.
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have you tried 360's on snow? if so what happens?
Jan 10 2013 2:26PM
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will_powder
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Start on a small 5-10ft jump or even a nice roller or cross-track.

Lead with your head, but don't just swing your arms. You have to engage your core and use your hips to initiate the spin as well. The arm motion helps with this mentally.

Get a nice pop off the lip and don't rush the spin, on a smaller jump you'll be fine landing at 270ish and shuffling the rest. Then you can work up the tempo until you're stomping at 360. Then increase the jump size and boom you're hucking 3s off phat cliffs in no time.
Jan 10 2013 2:28PM
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JAHBRADOR
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When i was being taught how to 3 as a kid my buddy would stand in the drop in of the jump exactly at the eye level of when i would be at 180 in the air. What he would make me do is once i got my head to 180 he would make me spot his head for a split second and then just continue my head rotation to 360 and my body would follow. Once you have stomped a solid amount of 3's you will not even have to think about the middle step of looking back up the hill. Took me a while but i got it in the end!

This really helps with keeping your spins "flat". I hope this helps.

P.S. Do not try to learn 3's on jumps with too much pop. Try find a decent sized jump that has a mellow take off!
Jan 10 2013 2:37PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Sorry for dub post, but most importantly, learn with friends! it makes the process a little less intimidating and a little more fun!
Jan 10 2013 2:39PM
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robotdna
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Falling. Lots of falling. :P
Jan 10 2013 2:54PM
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robotdna
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Thank you all, that was very helpful.
Jan 10 2013 2:56PM
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papermache
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learn to be comfortable with taking falls and crashes is ijmportant when you're new. I compare learning tricks to football practice in the sense that it can be intimidating to learn a play and potentially take hard hits that you know will hurt. You just got learn to accept it, know you'll take a couple falls everyday your out, and channel your frustration into correcting the mistakes and landing the trick.
Jan 10 2013 6:04PM
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Stickity
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and pay attention to why you're falling. if you fall the same way every time and you don't identify why, you'll never land it
Jan 10 2013 6:08PM
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papermache
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truth, film helps with this i'll add
Jan 10 2013 6:31PM
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Stickity
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just for learning to ski park i don't think it's necessary. someone to coach you would be more helpful since you can get another opinion on what's happening
Jan 10 2013 6:44PM
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FroesenSkeeze
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I'm pretty sure that you are just psyching yourself out. You THINK that you are hucking hard, but at the last moment you hesitate because you are still a bit apprehensive. You just have to keep practicing, and focus on doing all the basics correctly, such as widening your stance, hucking with your arms, leading with your head, shoulders, and hips, and spotting your landing. Good luck out there.
Jan 11 2013 12:36AM
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wasatch_rat
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its either a mental thing or a problem with your pop or both. most people that are learning 3s and fall tend to either try to spin right off the lip without popping properly and they get caught up. or they pop super hard, spin their head to 180 but they don't bring the rest with them. your entire body is doing a 360, so if your head and arms are spinning and the rest isn't, well then you probably get that part spinning too. if you only spin your arms and head but let the rest go limp, your entire bottom half will resist the rotation.
Jan 11 2013 12:49AM
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robotdna
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Just a quick update and thanks to you all, I can now pop 3's. I learned a few weeks ago. It's pretty awesome, considering I'm a racer. :D

Thanks again.
Mar 12 2013 7:00PM
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