Replying to Orage Benji pants

Hey guys, so I was looking for some really baggy black pants, and I was wondering how baggy the Orage Benji's were? I was wondering if someone who has them can post pics of them sagging them alot. Or does anyone have any other reccomendations for super baggy black pants? I was also looking at the Spyder Operator pants, but can't find them online anywhere. So if you can find those for me (in black only) or sell them to me that'd be dope. Thanks NS