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Ganja charges in Utah Advice needed ~! Park city Area

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willysworld
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Soo I got pulled over for a routine Traffic stop in Park City utah, and they searched my car and found about 3 to 4 grams of weed and my papers.

I got locked up for 5 hours and then my friend bailed me out for 1000$.

now ive never been busted for weed or for anything, and Im facing 2 charges in Summit county one for marijuana posession ( small amount ) and drug pariphinalia ie .,. some fucking papers.

Can any one from Utah or better yet park city give me some insight into what the punishment might be?

should I get a lawyer ? and what are teh judges like in summit county?

Thank you so much any advice or info is much appreciated.

Jah bless!

Feb 18 2012 11:58AM
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emilyiscool
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shouldve probably just smoked crack instead
Feb 18 2012 12:05PM
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JesusChrist.
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So they randomly chose you to search your car and you let them. Now theyre using what they found it court?

illegal search and seizure...that whole law suit is in-valid
Feb 18 2012 12:10PM
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iSmokeweed
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from now on, you shut the fuck up, and let your lawyer do all the talking.
Feb 18 2012 12:12PM
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Mr.O
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They can pretty much use any reason they want for probable cause and get away with it, even if they cannot prove it. All they have to say is they got a hint of a smell of the weed and they have the probable cause they need.


Feb 18 2012 12:19PM
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JesusChrist.
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yea but i doubt they can change their police report this far in the case. it wont show on their reports, and i probable cause is only suspicion by oath or affirmation and or the exact spot or persons to be search.

So unless they clearly SEE the marijuana or phaphanelia, or someone admits they have it/someone tells somebody of an actual crime being commtied they cannot search it.
Feb 18 2012 12:27PM
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Trawltopilot
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you got busted in summit for weed? isnt summit like amsterdam?
Feb 18 2012 12:35PM
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armadaski44
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this. no doubt about it.
Feb 18 2012 12:37PM
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PopsicleStand
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Lawyer

inb4 ccrewsoldier
Feb 18 2012 12:39PM
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PopsicleStand
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*CCREWSOLDIER
Feb 18 2012 12:39PM
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sneds
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GET A LAWYER

i'm not sure what the rules are in the states compared to Canada on this, and i think their alot heavier, but in Canada with small amounts of weed a Lawyer can totally get you out of it.
Good luck though man thats prettty shitty.
Feb 18 2012 12:45PM
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.AR6rider.
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They asked him to search his car and OP said yes. The rest doesn't matter. He consented to the search.
Feb 18 2012 12:48PM
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JesusChrist.
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OP didnt specifiy. Unless he said "yes" it was illegal, even if he hadnt said anything that is a no.
Feb 18 2012 12:51PM
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ECB
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Probably cause

If they smelt weed, probable cause
If there was a drug dog, probable cause
If they tricked him by using negatives, like can we not search your car, probable cause
If they saw something out in the open, probable cause
If they noticed he seemed high, probable cause
If he was drinking/underage, probable cause
If the cop wanted to search him just because, probable cause
If theres probable cause, theres probable cause holla at ya boi welcome to merica holla
Feb 18 2012 12:55PM
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californiagrown
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man, you suck at the law. you are the reason cops hate teenagers who act like they know it all.



On another note, i would assume its nothing more than a ticket for probly something like $500-1000. but hey, mormons go hard when it comes to drugs, so who knows. serach the NORML website to find other cases in the area.

Feb 18 2012 12:59PM
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ECB
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A FUCKING LOT

A LOT
A LOT A LOT A LOT A LOT A SPACE LOT TWO WORDS A FUCKING SPACE THEN THE WORD LOT
Feb 18 2012 1:01PM
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JesusChrist.
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DUDE IM SO BAKED AND THATS LAWLS ITS TRE333WWW
Feb 18 2012 1:02PM
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willysworld
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does any one actually live in utah and have any stories or previous times they have gone to court? ive never been skiing in this state for this very reason. Any real advice would be most appreciated.

And they smelt something that was the probable cause to search the car.

Feb 18 2012 1:39PM
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404404
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Your fucked. Utah is real, real bad with drug laws.




Less then a OZ can be up to 6 months in jail and 1,000 fine. If your 1000 feet from a school, park, or church when it happened then it can be 5 years and 5,000. They can also be bigger dicks and slap you with a felony for not having a a tax stamp for weed.

Good thing he didn't test you for DUI. Another fucked thing is that they can test you whenever they want to via saliva and if you smoked in the last 24 hours they can potently detect it.

Feb 18 2012 5:29PM
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asdfdsa
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Did you seriously just say jah bless?

I literally logged in just so that I could give you less karma and tell you about it.

Good day.
Feb 18 2012 5:33PM
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washparkdub
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Some advice...

Stay the fuck away from that fucking Mormon state. Bunch of squares and freaks.





Some cool people, not many.
Feb 18 2012 5:49PM
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west-coast
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lol dick move but i laughed..its not a big deal at all that he said that though
Feb 19 2012 1:09AM
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MACAQUE
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Stop posting until you have more more than the legal knowledge of a 12 year old.
Feb 19 2012 1:20AM
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soulskier
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forget a lawyer, hire JesusChrist.
Feb 19 2012 1:23AM
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Static
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They will probably drop the possession(especially if you're a student they will give you a 2nd chance as a possession conviction voids federal financial aid) and give you a deferred judgement on the paraphernalia where you stay out of trouble for a year and it goes away.
Feb 19 2012 1:27AM
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applejuice.
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Feb 19 2012 2:17AM
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russ.bar
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As harsh as he made this sounds, this will happen only if the cops a super dick along with the court, and thats assuming this isnt your first offense. But seeing as how you said it was, the harshest i would figure is a fine, very light probation for 6 months to a year, and if you were a dick to the cop and in court they will take your license for a year.

Not personal experience but two very close friends have had this happen.

Utah also passed a law recently not allowing cops to use the smell of marijuana as probable cause, afraid i cant prove besides my personal experience of being pulled over with 3 friends after blazing in a car for a few bowls. We denied smoking anything and just said no to everything, all you have to do is be polite and say no, you have your rights. Even though they smelled it we just denied and they left, even after calling in 2 more vehicles for "back up."
Once again i cant prove it, but thats my experience with cops in slc, did some stupid shit in highschool.
Feb 19 2012 2:31AM
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shocker611
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your fucking retarded.. theres not too many states where they'd be like "oh hell yeah man, you have four grams of weed, party on man".
Feb 19 2012 2:37AM
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russ.bar
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http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5405257
Feb 19 2012 2:39AM
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CassiusClay
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Why did your friend bail you out for $1,000? Seems like a lot of cash wasted when you probably would have spent around 24 hours there, likely in a holding cell and not in real jail. You're in a bad position, legal-wise, I really don't have much advice for you. Get a good lawyer, hope for the best, and try to stay out of trouble while you're on probation.
Feb 19 2012 3:18AM
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fucking
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you don't know what bail is, do you? they don't keep the money you stupid fuck.

here's some interesting facts: aussies are the most arrested people on earth while visiting outside of their country. the arrest rate averages 2 aussies a day. also australia is the leading country in smoking weed.

in conclusion, you're a fucking stereotype... and incredibly stupid. why are you stupid? well... you allowed a search, get busted then you make a thread on NS asking for advice from a bunch of kids whose knowledge only extends to mute grabs and jerking off. nice going.
Feb 19 2012 8:16AM
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willysworld
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I didnt allow the search my french friend did he doesn't speak good english and was driving and was unaware of the Law , your post did make me laugh though and maybe I am a stupid and a stereotype haha shit happens. thanks for the info on aussies .. but your wrong on one thing Kiwis are actually the biggest weed smokers per capita. not aussies
Feb 19 2012 10:37AM
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dirty.
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my buddy got pulled over in slc with a roach and got charged with possession and paraphanalia, had to do like a drug class and some other bullshit and was on probation for a long time. side note, you can get possession in summit county?
Feb 19 2012 12:23PM
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JzD.
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You should of ate it, that's what a kid from my school did...or at least tried, it didnt work out well, he got fucked
Feb 19 2012 12:45PM
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BmoChop
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hey now, I know tail grabs too
Feb 19 2012 12:59PM
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CassiusClay
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Can you find a 16-20 year old kid with $1,000 to loan out, even for a short time frame? I know I can't, you stupid fuck.
Feb 19 2012 1:11PM
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ryan.c
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84% of statistics are made up...yours included





oh and good luck op. they're definitely going to take your travel/work visa into account. how much longer do you have on it?
Feb 19 2012 1:48PM
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Lucas
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I can do spins like a Japanese man also
Feb 19 2012 2:06PM
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RyandaGod
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I fucking lost it, but in all honesty lawyer up,this coming from someone who has possession charges/experience with this bs. It might cost you some dough. but you will not regret it. BTW I take it those are both misdemeanors,  at least I hope they are. gotta love NY and the decriminalization of tree
Feb 19 2012 2:27PM
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fucking
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Australia

you're wrong. and so is that other fucking idiot of a kid saying it was made up. kiwis are 7th in the world... deal with it.
Feb 19 2012 8:11PM
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connory998
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im 17 and have $10 000 in my bank account, all earned legitimately by myself. /claim
Feb 19 2012 8:21PM
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theabortionator
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Just simple possession. NBD



People on ns gotta be smart though. I'd give it a 93% chance that you weren't being smart
Feb 19 2012 8:26PM
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BrightonFridays
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head to mexico
Feb 19 2012 8:35PM
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tbayskier
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I own a house and am 19.  don't underestimate someone because they are young.
Feb 19 2012 9:16PM
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GORILLA.
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oh my god that is harsh.

in ontario when the popo finds 3-4 grams on you, they write you a ticket and then they smoke your weed.
Feb 19 2012 9:28PM
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cobra_commander
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I would put your stupid away first.
Feb 19 2012 9:31PM
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PON3
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Wasnt the first time getting in trouble with the law enough to straighten you out?
Feb 19 2012 9:54PM
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CassiusClay
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Congrats, that's awesome. In terms of expenses: do you pay for the house you live under? How about the car you drive? Insurance, both on your car and yourself? Food? It all adds up. It's awesome you've saved up 10,000 on your own though. Keep working hard.
Feb 20 2012 10:54PM
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gustafari
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that blows.. don't really have any advice except just handle your shit and dont let your car stank like buddha.

being from seattle as a legal adult it's only a small fine if you get caught with an ounce or less
Feb 20 2012 11:04PM
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riddsicle
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I'm facing the exact same charges except I live in PA.  I got a lawyer and i'm doing what someone above me said--shutting the fuck up and letting him doing the talking haha...my court date is march 7th so we'll see how that goes.

Good luck man, hopefully we don't end up with any crazy consequences.

marijuana laws are stupid
Feb 20 2012 11:04PM
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EricaMN.
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*read that*

and also, i am fairly certain that cigarette papers do not legally fall under the category of paraphernalia, so hopefully that will decrease your charges

Feb 20 2012 11:17PM
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