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The painful tranformation from park skiier to the powpow...

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Since i was around 12 or 13 ive been a park rider. But as this ski season is coming up, im having less and less of a desire to ski the park and have decided to try and get more into the back country scene. Unfortunatly i know absoultely nothing when it comes to anything outside of the park. I need to find skis that will do good... any reccomendations??? Oh and im an extremely poor college student in utah so if you have any ideas about skis try to keep it on the less expensive end.
Also, any advice for my transfer into the backcountry that you thinks important PLEASE SHARE!!!
Oct 12 2011 7:39PM
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minihef
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Buy avi gear and learn how to use it. Being broke isn't a good excuse for dying unneccessarily. Do a backcountry course and/or try to hook up with people who are more experienced in the BC. Read up on weather reports and avalanche reports so you can find the good stuff whilst mitigating the risks. Be careful following other people's tracks unless you know exactly where they go - just because other people have found a way down it doesn't necessarily mean that you can.

Buy fat skis. Look around for second hand pairs if you're broke, it shouldn't be difficult to find some beat up powder skis that'll do the trick - even ones from a few seasons ago will make a world of difference compared with narrow park skis.

Oct 12 2011 7:58PM
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Bittner
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theres some corupt candide pow's for super sheap online i think. You should check those. I dont know about there performance or anything but their cheap!
Oct 12 2011 8:01PM
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84891jnf92048
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Why is that a painful transformation? Pow is amazing...
Oct 12 2011 8:01PM
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mountainviper
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^this and for skis check out the line opus. It's pretty much a park skiers pow ski.
Oct 12 2011 8:01PM
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O.RLY
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keep your eyes peeled for beginning of season sales and used gear sales. I got a mint condition pair of surface one life's that were a year old at a "used" gear sale in my city for $300. and they retail for like $900 or so. I also got a pair of 2010 rossi 120 bindings for like half price at a ski shop have a season opener sale
Oct 12 2011 8:04PM
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Haha cause i gotta buy all new gear and know absoulutly nothin!! But besides that, its gonna be awesome :)
Oct 12 2011 8:08PM
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Karma_Police
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1) Avy course THEN buy avy gear or at the same time ( you can buy used)
2) Warterproof gear
3) browse TGR for legit information (specifically your area)
4) I haven't bought a new pair of skis in 5 years.  I've owned 6 pairs of skis the past 5 years. Used or bust
5) smile becaue skiing powder in the bc is and always will be more fun than anything majority of resorts offer
Oct 12 2011 8:57PM
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yuck
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you can probably get some cheap stuff on clearance on evo

they have setups with bindings and shit that are pretty cheap, especially if its last years gear
Oct 12 2011 9:01PM
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LeadThug420
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Did you even bother reading his post you dumbshit?  He stated quite clearly that he needs new gear for powder.  You're one of the most consistently moronic posters on this website.   Congratulations.
Oct 12 2011 9:11PM
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84891jnf92048
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sorry duder.
Oct 12 2011 9:14PM
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Peter.
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buy some older gear, you can find that for cheap
Oct 12 2011 9:39PM
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KravtZ
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no offense to op more of a general statement... but a classic example of a "hardcore" park rat think who cant ski for shit outside of the park. See this so much up in vermont ha kids these days cant ski for shit sad so many kids just ski park all day long
Oct 12 2011 9:56PM
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JahSpriggs
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These should ease ur "pain"..... http://www.klintsnow.com/krypto.html

trust me
Oct 12 2011 10:17PM
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Drail
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a touring set up and avi gear can get very expensive. especially for an "extremely poor college student".

good luck with that.


My recommendation: try just skiing out of the park for a day. You live in Utah, but you've never even went out and skied pow for a day?

There's holes all though your story. Seams fishy to me.
Oct 12 2011 11:09PM
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californiagrown
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im guessing you ride custom skis that are a helluva lot longer than the 187 offered?

Why dont companys just offer a ski in 3 sizes: 175, 185, 195?
Oct 12 2011 11:12PM
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GorillaSteez03
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If you're in SLC and ski a 179 and have $200, I have some pow skis I'm trying to get rid of...check my thread in the Utah regionals forum or shoot me a pm if you're interested.
Oct 12 2011 11:15PM
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sierraskier.
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Do you go to the U? Are you in the UFS? If you go to the U, they offer avy classes next semester. There's PRTS 2007 and 2008. 2008 is a Avy 1 equivalent, with 2008 going more in depth, which is what I am taking. Also if you go to the U, the Outdoor Rec Program has BC gear that you can rent for super cheap, so you can see whether or not you like it. Lastly, if you are a UFS member, you can get some super cheap hookups on Surface skis, which is what I am doing. PM me if you have any questions, this is just the info I've gathered so far (I'm a freshman at the U).
Oct 13 2011 2:41AM
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fuckyocouch
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buy my 181 surface skullcandy live lifes. Delivered to your spot for $100....Shameless i know but fat skis will change your life.
Oct 13 2011 3:13AM
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mehregan15
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why do people feel the need to choose between park and pow?

when its dumping=ski pow
bluebird with no freshie=ski park
Oct 13 2011 6:02AM
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joshua
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You can buy hellbents + griffons for $600 from als ski barn online right now.
Oct 13 2011 9:42AM
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Toasty.
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dude, thats just like me.

i could care less about park, probably because i suck. so i like just floatin through the pow
Oct 13 2011 9:45AM
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Hey brah think before you open your mouth. Ive been skiiing since i was 2 and raced til i was 12. Just because i dont know all the technical aspects of skiing backcountry doenst mean i cant ski for shit outside the park.
Oct 13 2011 3:56PM
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No ive skiid pow loads. Just on skinny park skis or racing skis. I just wanna get into the more technical side of backcountry and get the equipment to do it right. and this isnt just a spontaneous idea i had to quit the park ive been trying to switch over for bout a year.
Oct 13 2011 3:59PM
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Dang dude sounds like theyve got their act together down at the U.. Im goin to USU right now.
Oct 13 2011 4:02PM
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grambo
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Trying to switch over for a year? You live in SLC. When it snows, go to LCC/BCC resorts and ski powder. What's so hard about this? You don't need to tour to ski powder where you live. One step at a time.
Oct 15 2011 1:41AM
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GratefulShred
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Get on some at shit and earn them turns!! you learn to respect good freshies so much more and you'll get so hooked on being in the mountains for extended periods of time. I don't really know too much about the BC shred around logan, but i'm sure theres some really killer stuff, you just have to find it!

oh and always always have a buddy, and if your in real bc get a standard avy kit and learn how to use it. it'll save ya one day.
Oct 15 2011 5:44AM
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dylhole
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I think I have some old Atomic Thugs I'll sell for 50 bucks if that helps.  Size 181 i believe...
Oct 15 2011 10:09AM
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Pro tip man. Thanks for the advice. And yea, im retarded.
Oct 16 2011 12:17AM
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WasnatchMonster
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Two tips:
1) Retail is for suckers.
2) Don't be a fool.
Oct 16 2011 12:40AM
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coldcuts69
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this
Oct 16 2011 1:02AM
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fatbastard
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Go with this. Dial in becoming a really solid pow skier before even worrying about skiing backcountry. Skiing in the BC will happen in its own due time when you realize you totally have the skills and need something more. You don't learn to surf by going out in heaving barrels. You go out in heaving barrels because you've put in your time to understand everything about your skills and limitations and how waves work.
Oct 16 2011 1:53AM
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FrightenedRabbit
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man, never heard of that before but damn it sounds sweet.

if you do decide to get into backcountry/slackcountry i'd definitely not be buying the gear new, its like minimum 200 bucks for a decent beacon.. its like 30-50 bucks to rent the gear for the day from most backcountry places and you dont have to worry about maintaining yourself.
Oct 16 2011 2:09AM
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FrightenedRabbit
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wow, unexpected links.. forgot to add that evo actually has a bc sale on right now.
Oct 16 2011 2:19AM
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