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Blunt my edges

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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
I m beginner newschooler and came to NS from the snowboarding.
On the snowboard i did jibs and spins...
So i came into the NS, and found strange thing
Everyone whio s jibbing on the skis gives me an advice - blunt my edges under the boots)
Is it necessary? Cause for now when i m doing the jib i feel some "braking" on the box.
Or it is the technical difficulties?
Will i lose the control on the snow if i will blunt my edges?
May 24 2011 3:54PM
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eheath
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Dulling your edges underfoot is okay, but you don't need to. After a day of skiing rails your edges underfoot will be dull enough. If you're worried about performance outside of the park, continue to sharpen the tips and tails of your skis, but not underfoot.
May 24 2011 3:59PM
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BenWhit
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my edges are so dull and rounded underfoot that i can sharpen the entire ski and still have no trouble or added friction on rails. i sharpened and waxed my own skis and took them to a shop to get the bindings re-adjusted and the tech said i did a great job :) (i know cool story but i was really pumped)
May 24 2011 4:06PM
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J-Dunn
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this
May 24 2011 4:07PM
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AWALLRUS.
Posts: 5762 - Karma: 223
Don't dull them, they'll do that on their own. what i do is just not sharpen them under the boot, so then i can still carve niceley when its icey.

unfortunately i have salomons, so i no longer have edges under my feet. at least catching on boxes is no longer an issue.
May 24 2011 4:09PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Just be careful on your first rail, catching a front edge blows.
May 24 2011 4:20PM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
Thank u guys very much. I won t touch my edges and will go to the park on Saturday)
Jibs,jibs,jibs)
May 24 2011 4:29PM
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Capurnicus
Posts: 9947 - Karma: 1,886
I use a file to make a 45 degree bevel, then round it off. I would never hit a rail on a sharp pair of skis. Why risk it? Takes 15 min to file your edge off underfoot and then you never have to worry about catching an edge on a rail/wood/concrete/whatever.
May 24 2011 4:40PM
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SKIU4EA
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how far underfoot do you guys dull down?  toe piece back to the heel piece?

May 24 2011 5:23PM
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404404
Posts: 11358 - Karma: 21,034
I'm sure people wont agree with me but take it all off.

Edges are great for jumps but if you want to learn rails having sharp edges is a no no. It takes me around 40 min to do both skis, and is worth it. Worst kinda fall you can have is digging into a rail and slamming on the rail or on the ground.

Just skiing for a day wont do it, and not to mention that day will suck. Buy a file, put some gloves on and file away.
May 24 2011 5:30PM
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AWALLRUS.
Posts: 5762 - Karma: 223
well if i was hitting a lot of rails i'd do this. andy parry knows his shit.
but i like jumps and i need the 2 ft of edge that hasnt come off yet.
May 24 2011 5:35PM
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DNK
Posts: 132 - Karma: 93
WELCOME :)
YOU MUST BE FOREIGN :)
It is not necessary but it is highly recommended!
Take a diamond file and grind away from toe to heel piece OR grip and rip it against a raiL!
You will not lose control because your points of contact are at your tip and tail...
May 24 2011 5:55PM
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TijmenDal
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Get a grinder and just grind it all of in 2 minutes. That's how the pro's do it.

Personally I just take a file and do it from toe to heel piece or something like that.
May 24 2011 6:55PM
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adamlukowski
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Yeeeeeeeeeeauup i feel sketchy as shit when im hitting rails and ESPECIALLY boxes that first day....... no matter what you feel like you are going to eat deh shit
May 24 2011 6:59PM
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TWoods
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I detune a little in the tip and tails where the skis are on the snow (about 3 inches) and then underfoot when I get new skis. Only a little bit though, more underfoot than in the tips and tails. I think it's a good idea. Catching because of sharp edges on boxes or rails can end up with your skis or yourself damaged.
May 24 2011 7:22PM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
Thank u) Of course i am a foreign and english is not my original language) I think it is higly noticeable)).
So i have a file already and i ll try to make some pretty round edges under my boot)
Thank u guys for your advices!
May 24 2011 11:49PM
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ALaw
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or try using a sander. just used one for mine and it makes them sooooo smooth and perfect
May 25 2011 12:06AM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
How did u used it? Just grinded on the surface under the boot?
May 25 2011 12:11AM
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ALaw
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yup, just used a palm sander and kept moving it around underfoot at a 45 degree angle. keep doing it for a little bit until you get a nice rounded edge.
May 25 2011 12:17AM
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ad.mcleod
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If you don't want to destroy you skis, check out this thread

https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/520693/
May 25 2011 12:18AM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
One more question for you guys
Why won t ski producers do something like 45 degree edge. It is cause of different positions of boots on the ski for different people?
May 25 2011 12:38AM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
I watched the video and i want to ask u)
Does anyone knows hot to translate "sanding sponge"
Шлифующая губка?
I understand what is that guy talking about but i really don t know how it is called in russian))
May 25 2011 12:50AM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
Yeah i found that sponges. Today i will dull my edges and i ll go skiing on saturday! hell yeah!))
May 25 2011 10:52AM
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TWoods
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because you can always dull your edges when you get them, you can buy a metal file at a hardware store cheap and make them 45 yourself. But, if someone buys that ski and doesn't want their edge dulled, they wouldn't be able to re-sharpen it.
May 25 2011 9:45PM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
Huh but the snowboard manufacturers have different sorts of boards. They have technologies like Easy Rail(TM of course) and so on))
May 26 2011 1:52AM
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jca
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as soon as you dull your edges that much, you'll never be able to carve properly on firm snow again.
May 26 2011 2:09AM
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Earl_Globz
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idk what these people say im to lazy to read. but hey take it from me bro brah, take file or rough sandpaper on a block, and hold it at a 45 degree angle on the edge. go back wards and forth side to side while slowly moving down the ski. Then repeat process with a gumi stone or fine sand paper. do as much a you want. dont listen to kids who say underfoot only. especially with a center mounted ski. Odds are your gonna wash out anyway when you carve especially when your new to the sport so fuck having sharp edges unless your rarin to end up in a hospital or rip your bases off. Besides doesn't anyone like presses? sheesh. What also alot of people dont know is that wearing edges down for grinding actually drastically lengthens your time on the ski. sharp edges are more likely to snap or dent when coming into hard contact with rails etc. This can lead to base fractures and side wall cracks. Some one needs to capitalize on romes copper edges. That Idea is fucking fantastic, and if you dont think so, do some research. (other than the searchbar)

Plus vibes for the switch. I just started snowboarding i love it. carving just feels so much more natural. cant wait to shred some powder.
May 26 2011 2:42AM
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Proletariat.
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Uh oh we have a communist invasion happening



Welcome to the world of freeskiing OP
May 26 2011 2:46AM
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TWoods
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because snowboard companies are good at selling gimmicks to people. It's hard to make a snowboard ride so poorly that people won't buy it, not so with skis. Edges that come pre-rounded are a really bad idea. Not everyone wants that; i know I don't.
May 26 2011 1:45PM
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GBS
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Dull ur edges man. I did cuz i didn't slide good on iron rails. When i dulled my edges i could slide everything without problems.
May 26 2011 2:17PM
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Caveman.
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Meh... detuning your skis by hitting rails can end very unfortunately.
May 26 2011 3:32PM
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Gharf
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i tore my acl because my edge caught in a rail when i was settin a fs 4 out.

detune your skis. it s worth it.
May 26 2011 9:39PM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
It s like a sacial game u know. And alot of people (almost everyone) said "Detune it!"
So i detuned and on saturday i ll check em out)
Thank u guys)
Thanks to welcomers!
Specially for proletariat! Balalaika and yshanka forever!))
May 27 2011 3:41AM
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nickyp
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Someone post that edit, where Ahmet mean mugs the camera, in the dark, while taking an angle grinder to his ski, and sparks are flying off. Please
May 27 2011 6:17AM
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84891jnf92048
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i make my edges round underfoot, all the way out to about 5" in front of the toepiece and behind the heelpiece for presses and scissoring. i lightly detune tips and tails so they dont catch if i surface swap, but they still carve.
May 27 2011 7:06AM
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Newschool_Pope
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id file them nice and round. it reduces teh risk of edge cracks and resulting edge pull-outs and you will not catch your edge on the rail when learning to jib. for carving, underfoot edge isnt that important since the cambered ski will touch the snow in the front and back, with sharp edges.
May 27 2011 7:40AM
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Yinzer
Posts: 1011 - Karma: 73
basically if you have sharp edges uunderfoot just take some sandpaper or sanding sponge and rub it on the edge under your boot. this will just take the sharpness out but not really remove material like a file does. rails will do that with time but to get started thays all you need
May 27 2011 10:41AM
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Jibberino
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That's simply not true.
May 27 2011 10:56AM
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i.ski.troll.
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after a month of riding on ANY ski, i have zero edges undedrfoot, no metal left at all. so dont even worry about having no control, i ride in minnesota so im on ice all the time.
May 27 2011 3:29PM
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BIGben*
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You are right, sir. Also you have a shitload of karma!!!!!
May 27 2011 4:33PM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
So i rounded my edges with sanding sponge - the ayre rounded but not as 45 degree as file`s made)
Did i do that cprrect?
May 28 2011 2:48AM
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Nortsx
Posts: 37 - Karma: -101
So i rode yeasterday and it was awesome) I made skislide and also tried a broken slide on the boxes)
Thank u guys!

May 29 2011 3:37PM
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