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No NS love for the JJ?

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SKI.ING
Posts: 2695 - Karma: 2,535
I don't understand why nobody seems to like this ski. Outside of NS everybody praises it and loves it. Was looking into saving up enough cash to get a pair for next season but now I'm skeptical. A list of reasons to why you love/hate the JJ would be helpful. And what do you mean, noodle?
Apr 13 2011 1:54AM
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Legion
Posts: 1374 - Karma: 29
i think you have that wrong... look the "where do i mount my JJ's" thread that was just above yours. lol. JJ's one of the most popular pow sticks out there.
Apr 13 2011 3:02AM
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Ghini
Posts: 2261 - Karma: 3,002
but also one of the most hyped, by armada self but also by others/the community.. There are a lot of ski's that have camber underfoot and rocker in the tip and tails, JJs are not always the best choise! Think about size, flex,turn radius, rocker design, eff edge, do you want a bigger/longer camber part or bigger rockers, etc etc
Apr 13 2011 4:17AM
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.RYAN66
Posts: 5381 - Karma: 235
op is dumb. search bar
Apr 13 2011 7:26AM
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shibby
Posts: 7088 - Karma: -19
NS has nothing but love for this ski. The same can't be said for TGR.
Apr 13 2011 9:51AM
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Session
Posts: 5379 - Karma: 22,152
Are you fucking dumb?
Apr 13 2011 10:27AM
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jibjunkie
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one of the main reasons the jj's are awesome and i love them is because they have the camber/rocker to sidecut profile dialed. if u look at the jj, the skis sidecut matches the rocker and camber perfectly. ive ridden other pow skis and cant understand why many companies take a normal sidecut mold fatten it and add rocker to it. you need to have camber where you have sidecut and rocker where you have reverse sidecut.
Apr 13 2011 10:27AM
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Session
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Are you also...fucking dumb?
Apr 13 2011 10:28AM
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huge-go
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That also has a downfall (for some, not all):stupidly short turn radius. When you have a ski like this, you have a very short effective edge, because the tapered tips and tails will NEVER engage no matter how much you lean them over. With something that is more traditionally shaped but rockered, you still get the floatation of rocker, but still get all the effective edge of a normal ski when you put them on edge. It's a great design (that I love, I gots me a pair), but has its drawbacks too. Another good point about the design is the swing weight. Because more of the weight of the ski is closer to your feet, they feel stupidly light.
Apr 13 2011 11:43AM
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Shredability
Posts: 2756 - Karma: 501
Personally I have nothing against the JJ.

The Rossi S7 on the other hand I hate, thats just me though
Apr 13 2011 11:45AM
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oceanic
Posts: 95 - Karma: 11
Nice ski but it's too flappy, the rocker is too abrupt, they ski very short, so all in all they are unnecessarily unversatile. They're outclassed by so many other skis.
Apr 13 2011 11:52AM
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YoUnGinAYo
Posts: 307 - Karma: 226
Haha damn.



JJs are sick no doubt about it, they are prolly getting hate from some of the people on NS because it rocked by some many old guys now a dayz and the old guys love them
Apr 13 2011 12:08PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
Posts: 2038 - Karma: 111
JJ is like riding a snowblade. Just not a ski that suits my style.

Plus IMO the Ninthward RDS in 183 is unreal in comparrison.
Apr 13 2011 12:12PM
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Yung_Gnarley
Posts: 9092 - Karma: 3,022
If everyone hates it then there might be a reason...

And there is.
Apr 13 2011 12:53PM
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ace_
Posts: 3189 - Karma: 39
pretty much. Honestly if you don't know how to ski and you want a big fat rockered ski this is what you get
Apr 13 2011 12:56PM
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assouadassouad
Posts: 154 - Karma: 61

This might help...

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/612265/

Apr 13 2011 1:34PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,272
https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/443198/
Apr 13 2011 1:43PM
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[J_Gasper]
Posts: 2983 - Karma: 1,594
yeah as stated before, newschoolers love the JJ
Apr 13 2011 3:17PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,404
my initial reaction after taking a run on 185 JJs was "what the fuck are these, skis for ants?"
Apr 13 2011 3:23PM
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bibs_skibum
Posts: 4462 - Karma: 449
i had jjs for 2 seasons. Shit durability, super thin base/edges, too squirrely, super hooky... the list goes on why i didnt like them too much.

My caylors have been far superior in every way to JJs, but that's a given.
Apr 13 2011 3:27PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Theres so much wrong with this statement, but to back up my corrections I'd have to release prototype specs that took a long time to try out. Let it be said that contact point of profile matching with taper point exactly = shit, at least compared to moving it just 3cm.
Apr 13 2011 4:55PM
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Aaaron.
Posts: 11817 - Karma: 903
hold up.
Apr 13 2011 5:05PM
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MrLarsen
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Pretty much the exact same thing norwegian skibuilding/testing guru Endre Hals told me on the chairlift..
Apr 13 2011 5:32PM
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jibjunkie
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this may be true for minorly rockered skis but as far as powder skis, your not gonna get the front 30 cm or so of tip to touch because the rocker is so exaggerated. this is why it makes sense to taper this portion of the ski and thus make it better at slicing up and over powder. yes they do have minimal sidecut but the why would u expect to rip gs turns on a 115 mm waist ski anyways?
Apr 13 2011 5:36PM
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Ducky.
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I have the exact opposite impression.
Apr 13 2011 6:04PM
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shibby
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http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/219806-JJ-Bent-chetler-rp112-s7-wtf-is-this-category-known-as
Apr 13 2011 6:05PM
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Simmo
Posts: 512 - Karma: 28
JJ's are sick. My favourite ski of all time.

More versatile and lighter than any other pow ski i've tried. The only people ive met who don't like them are big guys who charge super hard for whom they are too soft and those on the on3p bandwagon who will rubbish any other ski.



Apr 13 2011 6:55PM
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