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Why does black history month exist?

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fujarome
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Serious question that was brought up in one of my history classes today...

why do we have a black history month? Why no white history month or anything to that nature?
Only answer the prof gave to that was that white history month would be racist. Double standards...


So what does NS think? Support black history month or not?

Personally it doesn't really bother me, more just something interesting to debate or think about.
Feb 2 2010 2:33PM
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TheErtManCometh
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Damn this thread convinces me there is no hope for the future of our planet...don't they teach history in school anymore?

Stop acting like white Americans are the only people of Earth to ever commit genocide, or anything else appaling, that is terribly disingenuous.  Humans have been on this Earth for around 50,000 years and America has been a country for a little over 230 of them.  Yes, I am a fiercely patriotic American, but I would be the first to admit that we have done some terrible, terrible things as a country (yes, that includes minorities too).  I am not justifying any of it, but it is just people being people.  Blacks have enslaved blacks since the dawn of humans (who the hell you think built the pyramids?), asians have committed genocide on each other (Pol Pot anyone?), Native Americans have fought wars with each other simply to collect victims for human sacrifice (google the Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs or Olmecs) and Europeans have raped and pillaged on damn near every continent on the damn planet (The Crusades, the Conquistadors, the French Revolution, Hitler's Germany, etc.).  Get over it, quit using it as an excuse, or crutch or whatever you want to call it and do something worthwhile with your life. 

Yes, racism still exists in America, but, you'd be a dumbshit or in serious denial to admit that it is the only place it still exists though.  If America is so terrible, and so unequal, pack up your shit and GTFO!  We have minorities in elected offices and high paying jobs all over the country, and oh yeah, our President is black.  How many other countries on Earth have minorities at the head of their government?

Quit being so damn naive... 

Feb 2 2010 7:25PM
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superpoluha
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yea, we cannot dedicate a month to looking at their suffering, its not like we enslaved them for years and then we changes a couple of laws, then expected it all to be OK.
Feb 2 2010 7:25PM
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Delphi
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Black History month, BET, and other institutions of the like are all inherently racist...no getting around that. No one seems to give a shit about history anyway these days, so why not make it just "History" month? I took a Black History class last semester and I asked my professor why it wasn't called American history. He said because it was about the history of black people. I said, aren't those black people Americans?
Feb 2 2010 7:26PM
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Mr.Panda
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The Native Americans, Irish, and Asians of the USA would like a word.
Feb 2 2010 7:27PM
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Nathn
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It'll never happen. There will always be at least one douche bag.
Feb 2 2010 7:32PM
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omIV
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wrong.
Feb 2 2010 7:32PM
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theabortionator
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Who said anything about being tough? It must be fun being 12
Feb 2 2010 7:34PM
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Ben.
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this post is so full of fail, its overflowing.
Feb 2 2010 7:37PM
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ECfreeski3
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(i know youre kidding at least a little but) everyone is entitled to their opinion but when someone's opinion is based on misinformation (or complete ignorance of the subject) then maybe they should just keep their mouth shut
Feb 2 2010 7:45PM
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s.erickson
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hahahahahahahahaha
Feb 2 2010 7:46PM
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theabortionator
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Wow, that was racist. He made a valid point. BET, black entertainment television, horribly racist. Same with history month, same with affirmative action.

You get a scholorship for your race? You get accepted based on raise. The percentages of which kids do or don't go to school doesn't matter. I understand the idea and the reasoning for it, but it's still horribly racist.

Their best bet is too treat everyone equally. Get rid of racism. The system now also has the potential to handicap groups more than it helps them. Bottom line racism needs to get squashed.
Feb 2 2010 7:46PM
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Ben.
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affirmative action is flawed. there is no doubt there whatsoever. however the alternative would be almost no minorities. i guarantee it.

as for BET, ill say the same thing i say every time, this doesnt apply in most cases but for tv, practically every other station is white entertainment television
Feb 2 2010 7:48PM
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ECfreeski3
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i'm sure your teacher was really impressed. the answer to your question is because what you and i know as "american history" is horribly biased
Feb 2 2010 7:49PM
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TheErtManCometh
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Cheers to you sir...an excellent and thoroughly well researched counter to my opinion on the matter...
Feb 2 2010 7:51PM
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ECfreeski3
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counters to your points are throughout this thread i read your post and you said nothing that hasnt been addressed already
Feb 2 2010 7:53PM
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Ben.
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read through the thread, your ignorance has already been countered.
Feb 2 2010 7:55PM
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Mr.Panda
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Yes but saying they can't voice said opinion is pretty dangerous too.
Feb 2 2010 8:04PM
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ECfreeski3
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haha well my OPINION is that theyre too stupid to be using computers
Feb 2 2010 8:08PM
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Mr.Panda
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GOOD JOB!



Ugh, I hate talking about shit like this.
Feb 2 2010 8:33PM
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ECfreeski3
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haha agreed
Feb 2 2010 8:34PM
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TheErtManCometh
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Good catch, it's around 5 million...missed a couple of zeros there.  Sorry, been a decade or so since my last world history class. 
Feb 2 2010 8:40PM
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Mr.Panda
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It brings the worst out in me. Yes, I am a little bit racist. What of it?
Feb 2 2010 8:50PM
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TheErtManCometh
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aren't we all...

Feb 2 2010 8:52PM
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fujarome
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thats exactly why i made this thread, made 1 comment....then got out of here.
Feb 2 2010 8:56PM
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charmander
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youre easily my favorite nser
Feb 2 2010 9:59PM
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BootySpunk.
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Hi.
Feb 2 2010 10:52PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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I think I have a pretty good grasp on this concept because I go to a largely african american populated high school. Ive realized that the roles have almost switched between blacks and whites, I hate to say it but I think african americans are becoming more prejudice towards whites because of the effect from the civil rights movement. For example if I were say hey nigger(dont ban me its just an example) then Id get my ass beat, but then at the same time you have thugs calling you out for being a white boy and using other offensive words every day.
I have several friends who I hang out with on a daily basis though that are black and Ive realized the only way to get around segregation is to just ignore it. plain and simple.
Feb 2 2010 11:01PM
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Ben.
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im gonna go with nope
Feb 2 2010 11:05PM
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Mr.Panda
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Do, you need some fucking painkillers to help calm down or something.
Feb 2 2010 11:06PM
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Mr.Panda
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MOTHERFUCKERDOUCHEBAGWHORESHITCOCKBITCHTITSCUNT!!!!

I meant "Dude" and no comma. FUCK!
Feb 2 2010 11:06PM
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k-rob
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because white people won't stop bitching about black history month like it's done them some terrible wrong that they need to be repaid for.
Feb 2 2010 11:09PM
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superpoluha
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i agree man, especially the asians and indians...
Feb 2 2010 11:11PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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Well the goal of the civil rights movement was to eliminate segregation right? Well what is black history month doing then? Because in a broad sense it is segregation by they people who fought to eliminate it 50 some years ago.
Feb 2 2010 11:13PM
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fillup
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Same reason affirmative action exists. Our country feels like we have to pay people back for what we have done to them.
Feb 2 2010 11:17PM
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k-rob
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i'm sure bitching about it is doing a hell of a lot to end the segregation. bitch bitch bitch, i hate black history month, it is dumb, bitch bitch bitch, i have the same rights as anyone, bitch bitch bitch, gee i sure hope that by pointing out everything wrong with this racist bullshit i doun't sound racist, bitch bitch bitch, oh wait i do maybe if i shut the fuck up and ignored it people would stop believing there is a need for it.
Feb 2 2010 11:18PM
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SteezyOhio
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the sole reason we should have a black history month, more or less just a morgan month
Feb 2 2010 11:19PM
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Abc567def
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your culture is your history because it shapes you into the people you have become and the beliefs that you posses
Feb 2 2010 11:19PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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In no way was I bitching about it, I was just questioning why it is necessary? But I guess that makes me racist eh.
Feb 2 2010 11:20PM
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ECfreeski3
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the amount of irony in this thread would make me laugh if it wasnt so depressing. i cant believe there are people that think its UNFAIR to have a black history month. holy shit you guys dont know how good you (we) have it
Feb 2 2010 11:21PM
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k-rob
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wasn't talking about you specifically. i was talking about bitches.
Feb 2 2010 11:21PM
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Feb 2 2010 11:22PM
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sorry

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Feb 2 2010 11:23PM
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LoneSkier
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Feb 2 2010 11:39PM
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Mr.Panda
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Then why not just have a MINORITY history month? Blacks aren't the only ones getting fucked with still. The only thing is that they have douchebags like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson reminding us of them all the time.
Feb 3 2010 1:32AM
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factory81
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we have black history month to divide newschoolers

thats why
Feb 3 2010 1:36AM
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Mr.Panda
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Let's use the definition that includes everyone. Like, the current Mexicans, the Chinese and Japanese of the middle to late 1800s, others too as well.
Feb 3 2010 1:38AM
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Mr.Panda
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Just to be a jackass (:P) why even have a "x" history month of any kind then? It won't do anything so why bother?
Feb 3 2010 1:52AM
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Mr.Panda
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I never said it was. That was someone else. I was saying almost this whole time that it's stupid that "black history" seems to be all that we are embarrassed about.
Feb 3 2010 2:05AM
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Hermondo
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I don't even think of black people once during black history month. I let other people do that. I wasn't there during any sort of time of black oppression so why do I need to be reminded of things that people in this nation did before me? Hell, my ancestors weren't even here to live or take part in any of those times.

And all this has been said but seriously, white people do not have more advantages than other races. Even though this hasn't directly affected me it still pisses me off. My college application seriously made me fill out about 4 pages on what race I was. Then they made me write an essay on how I have experienced racial difficulties or something like that. Minorities get way too many benefits at my school. Scholarships that only certain races qualify for. White people do not qualify for them. But these minorities also qualify for any scholarship that white people can qualify for. Bullshit.

There was a black group on campus promoting their all black fraternity and sorority. My buddy asked them if it would be ok to have an all white fraternity and sorority but they told him that'd be racist. Cool use of double standards guys. So you're allowed to discriminate but that would just be over the top if white people did the same?? More bullshit.
Feb 3 2010 2:14AM
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