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therealjerk
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Allright in your humble opinions, what is the difference between hip-hop and rap? GO

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May 4 2002 4:10PM
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PhattTim
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There are heaps of debate posts, just look at the non-ski forum, full of 'em

But for rap and hip hop, I think that hip hop has a stronger more dance-to-able beat and rap is different coz it's more about the rythm and the words and not so much about being danced to. Example of rap = some 2pac stuff and hip hop = ice cube's 'put your ass into it'

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May 4 2002 6:16PM
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dylhole
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naw, ice cube is not anything like hip hop. listen to the lyrics of both hip hop and rap. rap is more about killing shit, how many bitches you have, how big your blunt is, how many fourties you drink. i know those are all pretty stereotypical images of rap, but it is the easiest to understand. hip hop is more about a decent message. it is a lot more positive, but doesnt necessarily need to ryhme more
May 4 2002 6:40PM
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PhattTim
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I was referring more to the music than the words

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May 5 2002 12:29AM
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rebel
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Hip hop is more of a culture. Rap is a style of music. Most rap music is actually both rap and hip hop. Some rap, however, is not hip hop at all (ie Cypress Hill).
Hip hop includes more than just music. It also includes your style of clothes etc.
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May 5 2002 5:30AM
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T-lo
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hip-hop is just a soft version of rap

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May 5 2002 12:29PM
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teethi
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hip-hop actually has SINGING once in a great while. rap is just fast ryming talking



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May 5 2002 2:01PM
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westcoaststyle
Posts: 4057 - Karma: 31
people like bad azz are rap
people like ja rule are hip hop
tahts my view on it anyway. and that hip hop is a lifestyle, rap is just a part of it
May 5 2002 2:21PM
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hanklambo
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ive always thought of hip hop being mor based on a strong beat and rhymes and singing, i think of rap of really fast talking that rhymes

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May 5 2002 2:41PM
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rebel
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Hip hop is not a style of music!!!!!
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May 5 2002 4:05PM
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dylhole
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ja rule is not hip hop.
del is hip hop
May 5 2002 4:14PM
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therealjerk
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yeah, westcoast. Ja Rule is def. rap. right now in music, rap is what they play on MTV and its turning more into hard R&B. i think hip hop is more focused on melding rhymes (MCs) and beats (DJs).

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May 5 2002 5:20PM
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c_lo
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I think you little bastards (sorry) need to listen to rebel cause he's about the only person on here who knows. All the rest need to aks someone.
May 5 2002 6:09PM
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c_lo
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West coast seems to know whatup to.
May 5 2002 6:11PM
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T-lo
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I know plenty about the rap/hip-hop music scene. hip hop songs do usually have a stronger beat, a lot of rap songs start out as poems (like tupac did) and don't have as strong of beats. there isn't a fine line between rap and hip hop though

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May 5 2002 9:42PM
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rebel
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Thank you c_lo. At least someone is listening to me.
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May 6 2002 12:44AM
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1080chick
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hip hop is like usher....rap is like dre......they're different....hip hop is slower..has a different beat.
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May 6 2002 1:00AM
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wntrwill
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hhhhhahaha
just stop please. usher hip hop??? oh man. read the above posts
May 6 2002 3:46PM
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rebel
Posts: 5198 - Karma: 22
Ja Rule, Tupac, and Usher Raymond are all hip hop.
Ja Rule is rap, Tupac is gangter rap, and Usher, 112, Aaliyah, Alicia Keys, R Kelly would all fall under R+B.
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May 6 2002 4:00PM
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Schwags
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jesus christ you people are dumb.



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May 6 2002 4:51PM
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Co-Flow
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Ok I'm with schwags on this one, this 'debate' is gay.


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May 6 2002 5:05PM
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therealjerk
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yeah, theres too many different views and we should just listen to what we like. kinda like my fashion n' shit post cept with music not clothes

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May 6 2002 5:20PM
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linkray
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They both suck.


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May 6 2002 8:50PM
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c_lo
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Ja Rule? Ja Rule, nelly and all that other shit isn't rap its fucking pop music. Anyone read that Q-Tip article in the Source or the Yung Wun interview in XXL? They know what up. And like Tip said its all just music man.
May 6 2002 8:52PM
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ESB
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Just wondering... where did we get the actual term 'hip-hop?' I think the 'hop' part comes from the 1900-1950s dance styles, hoppin' and boppin' you know..... then it became 'hip' in the eighties, right? When I think hip-hop I think of Vanilla Ice and Criss Cross.

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May 11 2002 12:58PM
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snowboy56
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...not really sure the big difference between the two but i think the best hip-hop/rap artist is Busta Rhymes~his style and his music is just awesome~he has the greastest video ever with the huge elephant and the multi-colored aboriginy(sp) type ppl
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May 11 2002 4:47PM
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rebel
Posts: 5198 - Karma: 22
Busta is the best. I love his video with ODB for the Woo Ha Remix. That was so funny. It was the two of them in a padded room, tied up in a two man stright jacket, and they had crazy joker hats..... it was funny.
May 11 2002 7:56PM
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ski2824
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i think all rap/hip hop is not music. it only has one tone and no or little change in notes, so i dont classify it as music
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May 11 2002 9:01PM
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westcoaststyle
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k, this is my view on it:
there are different kinds of rap, like gansta(daz, kurupt), mainstream garbage, which is hip hop(nelly, ja rule), and other shit. i dont know what to name it(beatnuts, bad azz, mac dre). theres lyrical shit too(hyroglyphics, jurassic five)

hip hop is r&b and weak shit like the mainstream, 'i just want money' rappers


May 12 2002 1:02AM
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westcoaststyle
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hip hop is a lifestyle, like your attitude and shit. my posts kinda contridict themselves but whatever
May 12 2002 1:04AM
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