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One ski quiver for the east

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wintersway
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As the title says, i need some do anything skis for the east coast that will hold up for 50+ days a season.
I am 5'6" 120 and ride about 60% park, 20% bumps and glades, 10% "powder" and 10% groomers.
I want something with a bit of a waist, probably 80 to 95 so that they will be stable for landings and float on whatever powder we happen to get.
165-170cm length would be best, my 158s are too short. Also, im not too interested in symmetrical or center mount. I like my skis right now at 2cm back from center.

I am interested in:
Rossignol s3 (2009 not 2010)
Rossignol s4
K2 Kung Fujas
Salomon Suspect
Volkl Bridge

i dont know much about moment or surface, but they do interest me so if anyone has some info, id like to hear it.

Thanks.
Jul 14 2009 10:29PM
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Ski.Ballet
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169 Kung Fujas for sure.
Jul 14 2009 10:38PM
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wintersway
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are they able to hold their edge on icy conditions? i havent heard good things about that.

and what about moments? is there a model i could get some info on?
Jul 15 2009 10:34AM
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iFail
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Not going to touch on the Fujas other than saying some friends love them(haven't skied them).

For the Moments a one ski quiver near what you named earlier would be Reno Jibs, Reno Freebirds, or Tahoes.(symm. park ski, carving twin tip ski, all mountain ski).  Look them up

Jul 15 2009 11:24AM
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sarnoitaly
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stik wid line skis im an east coaster and went to colorado last yr with line invaders...ddnt need to rocker them or any thing and i was fine in the backcountry...there also made lightweight and for park, but speed is really not a prob 4 em...
Jul 15 2009 11:29AM
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powder_submarine
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i have volkl bridge, they're very good on groomers and they do really well in powder yet (i mean something like east coast powder), on the other side they're quite stiff and heavy, plus what is signed as true center is set fairly back than middle of the ski, so that they're a bit hard to handle in park (if you're not tall and heavy)...
for suspects, they're park specific, so looking at specs i'm not sure how will they perform in powder...
rossis seem to be a good choice, maybe they're a bit narrow (2010 s3 otherwise has some very interesting specs)...
kung fujas 2010 are imho what is the nearest to a one ski quiver you can get, moreover if you get them a pair of marker schizo bindings: problem is that they're quite expensive...

i'd take a loo even at line anthem, a sym twin tip fairly wide (atomic patent 2010 are similar too)...
i don't  know enough about surface, but for what i read they made good skis

about moment: now i'm a big fan and i think that reno rocker (mid-wide waist, rockered tip and tail, flat camber) are simply awesome and such a fun ski (from what has been written by people who used them)
tahoe are another good choice for a one ski quiver, wide and a more traditional all-mountain
bibby pro in 186, even though fairly wide, with rocker and a flat camber are interesting as well

as a conclusion i tell that i guess that the choice of a ski is really personal, it depends on what you expect from them and what you really plan to do... i've given you just a couple of hint, the most important is that you have in mind exactly what you want from your skis (i hadn't and i fear i made not the best choice with bridge)

here you can find a lot about 2010 skis and previous years http://global.skipass.com/gearguide/ski/2010/
Jul 15 2009 12:24PM
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freeballer
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Liberty Hazmats.  94mm underfoot.  they crush groomers and the park, pretty good float in pow.  best customer service and a 3 year warranty.
Jul 15 2009 12:30PM
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iggyskier
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new on3p jeronimo...
171cm
126/96/120
18.7m radius
23.5cm x 1cm (pretty  low) tip and tail rocker
mount = -2cm from center
$399 + shipping on presale

bamboo core, thicker base/edges, carbon, binding mat, new nylon chip resistant topsheet, etc

pm me for details.
Jul 15 2009 1:29PM
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wintersway
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alright im going to add in the line chronic and lierty hazmats to my list of skis to look at. anyone have reviews of any skis i have listed?
Jul 15 2009 2:42PM
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yeahitsdave
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chronic kryptonite. wider than the chronic for better float, but narrow enough to rip groomers. absolutely killer. id say blend, but they might be a bit wider than you want, even tho they ski much narrower.
Jul 15 2009 2:55PM
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Detroit_Steeze
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BLuhouse mr
Jul 15 2009 3:18PM
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Slinger1x1
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fischer addicts
Jul 15 2009 3:37PM
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saucey
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depends if its jibs or jumps mostly
you want to pick based of that if youre a general park rat

i rocked 2 skis this season


my octolands that are so buttery and fun, they worked great in the trees, and in our east coast "pow" they are great for playing on jibs, but they can hold their own on jumps
-jibs
-trees
-pow

my fischer addicts were terrific for jumps and pipe, they were stiffer and faster, i could carve really well on grooms, they are super poppy
-pipe
-jumps
-slopestyle
-big air

all in all i would say you should go with the line anthems (octolands) and go with center mount since its a true twin
Jul 15 2009 4:26PM
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the-big-lepowski
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I have the octolands as well, and for what they are made for, I love them.  Powder?  Durability?  not so much.  The line ski you are looking for is the blend a regular camber ski of 100 mm underfoot.  If you need more justification, note that the meatheads have used them probably more than any other ski for EC pow, for what looks from the trailer like 2 years in a row.  And depending on mounting, they kill it in the park as well.

Heard good things about next year's K2 KF's, especially for the east

Jul 15 2009 6:59PM
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saucey
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keep in mind east coast rarely gets hit, the anthems are a great east ski as a smaller mid fat, that will be more useful for what he does considering he skis east powder 10% of the time

im saying in my quiver i use my octos for pow, and they are usefull considering how rare  "freshies" are in the east it makes no sense to pick up fatter skis when you only get one ski
Jul 15 2009 7:23PM
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Shabangarang
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im 5'6  140 and i have 161 line anthems there pretty sick for rails.
Jul 15 2009 7:25PM
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Jamestown
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fattypuss alotta
Jul 15 2009 7:27PM
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Shabangarang
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???
Jul 15 2009 7:30PM
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Jooky
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2010 S3 is actually perfect for you.  Carves with a 98mm wasit, a little fun to butter or float in the pow with the rocker.  Underfoot (where the ski touches anyways) has normal camber and edges.  I skied them in all sorts of conditions and they were SICK>
Jul 15 2009 7:37PM
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Jamestown
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it was a joke

because fattypusses are like 140mm monsters, and therefore unacceptable for east coast riding
www.fattypus.com

Jul 15 2009 7:38PM
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summersover
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1. its spelled Fatypus (one T)
2. Surprisingly you could probably ride A-Lottas in the east because they have traditional camber and sidecut unlike a Hellbent or an ARG with crazy rocker, the only issue would be the 140mm waist that would make them slow and absolute bricks
Jul 15 2009 7:43PM
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Jamestown
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+k for the correction
i actually feel pretty dumb right now

Jul 15 2009 7:59PM
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Shabangarang
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o gotcha if ur sayin im rolin wit to small ski i normally ski wit 171 those are more my urban type ski
Jul 15 2009 8:14PM
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the-big-lepowski
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saw a pair of them at sugarbush on a deeeeep day. 

And to the guy who recomended octos/anthems, with that park/pow percentage, I agree that a ski of those dimensions makes sense.  Its more the sym. sidecut that might not work so well for 40 % skiing out of the park.  also varies how much you appreciate bassackwards sliding...  in the end its scratchpro's decision

Jul 15 2009 8:22PM
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saucey
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ahh very true i ski switch quite a bit, i definately agree there.. in that case
LINE chronic
166 or 171
i would recommend a 166 closer to center mount
and the 171 2 back from center
Jul 15 2009 8:30PM
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summersover
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haha well unless you're a real gear whore like me you wouldn't know that anyways
Jul 15 2009 8:38PM
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Jamestown
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well youre talkin about a 171 length
the fatypus is 140mm width
Jul 15 2009 8:42PM
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cool.
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KUNG FUJAAAAAAAAAS
Jul 15 2009 8:45PM
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wintersway
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id rather not go that wide.. im cautious about the kung fujas at 95, which is why i like the 2009 s3 with the 90mm waist. the shop im probably going to buy the skis from carries s1, s2, s3, and s4 i am pretty sure. ill ask them when i get to it, but im looking for any helpful reviews from you guys.



UPDATED LIST (REVIEWS ON THESE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE)

2009 or 2010 K2 KUNG FUJAS
2009 possibly 2010 Rossignol S3
2010 Rossignol S4
2010 Line CHRONIC
2009 or 2010 Volkl BRIDGE

thanks for the help guys, ill be getting whatever i choose before heading to college this fall
Jul 15 2009 8:52PM
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Shabangarang
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o forget it srry i was thinkin of somtin else
Jul 15 2009 9:27PM
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saucey
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you might as well go with the 09 chronic, its listed at retail 450 and next years is almost an identical ski aside from the graphic and retail is 500, plus 09s will be on a wicked sale
Jul 15 2009 11:19PM
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Balto
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im more of a gear whore, just saying :)

listen to iggy and get the ON3Ps!
Jul 15 2009 11:26PM
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summersover
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gear whore in my case is know everything about everything
as opposed to your buy everything and anything
Jul 15 2009 11:36PM
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Balto
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bet i know more :)
Jul 15 2009 11:40PM
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.peter
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I mean as much as I don't like Salomon i'd say go with the suspects. They're pretty wide and a good ski that can do pretty much everything. Especially on the East coast.
Jul 16 2009 12:05AM
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Snowgoner
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on3p jeronimo
Jul 16 2009 12:07AM
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Dr.Dickless
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Armada AR6 never skied the east but they're pretty stable on the hardpack and they come in a size 171cm pretty good for jumps and rails
Jul 16 2009 2:50AM
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powder_submarine
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a little more hint about volkl bridge: watch out before mounting bindings, as stance is set quite back (rec boot center and true center marks), you can better their park performances putting bindings forward enough to have more balance...

there's a video here in NS (searchbar "a day with liam downey") where he uses bridge '08 in park and he seem to have them mounted quite forward...

with this in mind, i guess they can be good for park riding, expecially if you're big and hard charging...
as i told you before they do really well on groomers and powder as well, being stiff enough for his
Jul 16 2009 12:07PM
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wintersway
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bump

volkl walls instead of bridges
Jul 19 2009 1:41PM
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Gomer_GSX
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2010 Kung Fujas or if you wanted a little bit bigger I can say the Bacons give you great pow ability but don't lose an edge in the shittiest conditions.  They may be a tad long for you though.  Kung Fujas impressed me quite a bit when I rode the new baby rocker version last year.  My only gripe was it's a little skinny (mind you I ride a lot of NW powder). They should be perfect for what you'd like to do.
Jul 19 2009 2:31PM
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