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JOSS girls team

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Blurst
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Im just thinking if this could ever or will happen. I know that the girls tricks are not up to par with the guys but because it is a video contest they dont really need to be. Their videos can and probably would be just as sick and creative as the guys just not have the crazy tech tricks. I know that the chances of it happening in the near future are probably pretty slim but i think it would be sick if there was a girls team and i think that it could push girls to be alot better. So im just wondering what everyone thinks about this?

Apr 19 2009 10:04AM
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chugLIFE
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ya she was doing 10's in 2002 i'm pretty sure...when she was like 18-19 and had no sponsors haha.
Apr 19 2009 10:37PM
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Muteman
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Burke 1080's in Propaganda. Pretty gnarly. I think she throws a misty too. Compared to Kristi Leskinen's segment in the same movie its not even close. Thinking about that reminds me of how awesome Propaganda was. Favorite ski move ever.
Apr 19 2009 10:54PM
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k.perkins
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sadly enough, this guy speaks the truth.
Apr 19 2009 10:56PM
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Rez4frederick
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Jon should build a smaller booter just for the ladies. It would help them progress and it would be fun to see.
Apr 19 2009 11:46PM
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TeeDub
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Apr 20 2009 12:05AM
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joly.sp
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Wouldn't happen. People would just get hurt, it would be a nightmare. The jumps like cosco said are 100+ feet and I cant see that going well for the girls that can hit 60ft. Not trying to be sexist, I think there would be a TON of injurries if they tryed some of those jumps and then even if a girl stepped up[ and hit the 120ft and say 3'd it everyone on ns would bitch them out for not grabbing or some shit and it would be really gay.
Apr 20 2009 12:14AM
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mackinnon
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i agree with everything cosco has said.

but otherwise, this thread made me laugh harder than i have all day.
Apr 20 2009 12:23AM
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Mike.Records
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I like the idea of one girl per team.
Apr 20 2009 12:28AM
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Clarkes
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Even if it was a subject of whether or not a girl could hit that jump, which i doubt many/any of them could, not to be hating they definitely can blow me away, however even if the girls could/would hit a jump of that magnitude I doubt any of them would be pulling anything even comparable to men. Its sexist to believe that women should be sent to a event based upon the fact that they are women. Joss invites should be based upon the skill that the athletes posses and not the sex of the person in question.
Apr 20 2009 3:05AM
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FUUUCK
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Why invite a bunch of girls who wont throw down,
when you could invite a bunch of AMs who do, and could actually use the media attention?

If girls get invited to JOSS it'll be because they're women, and not because they're good skiers.
Apr 20 2009 8:45AM
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NGA
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id do it
Apr 20 2009 10:40PM
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bb_Skier
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sarah burke hit the whistler jump in push but that was not the same thing as the floater, i would say invite more ams they will try and do crazy new things to get recognized
Apr 20 2009 10:56PM
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Nadia.
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That's because you're a fucking unbelievably sick skier, and would be one of a handfull of chicks that could actually throw down harder than most pros.
Apr 20 2009 11:26PM
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EClay46
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ie childbirth, sandwhich making?

haha, im just kidding. but ya, it just pisses me off when I hear women complain about things they dont do as well as men and say its unfair they dont get paid as much, or when women/girls are given props for the sole reason of 2 X chromosomes.

i just think women promote sexism.
Apr 21 2009 2:45AM
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punkrock32
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I don't think you understand how big these jumps are at JOSS.  I would highly doubt it if a girl stepped up and hit them.  JOSS is a different ballgame, Jon has to make sure the guys he takes can jump because as Cosco mentioned above, these are some of the biggest jumps even the top male pros have ever hit.  I'm not trying to come off as sexist, but I honestly don't see any women hitting some of Jon's JOSS jumps which would make it pointless to have a girls team. 
Apr 21 2009 3:31AM
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IceCreamer
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Team U.S.A. threw down very hard... much harder than any female skier.

Apr 21 2009 9:07AM
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_CC_
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if jon could actually find some girls who were actually going to be good enough, yeah im all for it.  they only ones i can think of would be sarah and kaya and putting them up against wallish and dumont.....ehh......
Apr 21 2009 9:28AM
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J-Wallz
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y not just do a mixxed team cause you can still get the best of both and still have an epic video.
Apr 21 2009 12:56PM
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klingisking
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should do it. see what the girls have to do next. maybe it would push them a bit... hahaha.

i try my best. i compare my level wiht the big boys(brogan, nipples, seany j, k thomas,) all them make me look really bad. but hey. they help me out. and i get better, i learn form them. form that this year, wow i do admitt i got better.

as i said i cmpare myself with them boys. if i campare me to them i expect me to be as good as them.

Apr 21 2009 5:08PM
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klingisking
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btw. im not even on the JOSS team hahaha
Apr 21 2009 5:09PM
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rossiskier93
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so your saying that learning from guys is great and it helped you to progress.  JOSS is not about learning its about stomping.  You learn tricks on normal sized jumps in a terrain park.  You dont go to the biggest jumps in the industry to learn tricks.  Stupid idea for a girls JOSS team until they have the skill to qualify for JOSS fairly (like all the guys).

As someone also said the whole idea about how the girls gravity or whatever makes it harder for them to balance and spin is crap cause women are very good at spinning and balancing in gymnastics.

Stupidest thread since the one about girls in competitions with handicaps
Apr 21 2009 8:33PM
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klingisking
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no hate here. btw. normal size jumps are 30s. and yeah the boys teach on those and they teach how to stomp it. thanks for ur advise..................
Apr 21 2009 10:00PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Oye. I saw this thread and immediately I saw broken backs and torn ACL's. It's not worth getting hurt over.
Apr 21 2009 10:00PM
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nikkib.
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yeye:) hahah
May 18 2009 9:34AM
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s-trana
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fuck no. please never let a girls team get formed in a big and glorious event like JOSS
May 18 2009 9:46AM
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papasteeze
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true dat jackie.   stay the course, don't let anyone or anyones posts or whatever, keep you down or hold you back.  You know what you know and I know that!  ;)

May 18 2009 10:05AM
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deleted5
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being strong has nothing to do with skiing what if I take steroids I'll be able to do a 1620 I mean it can't hurt to go to the gym but wtf dose being weaker have to do with doing spins sack up and do it.
May 18 2009 11:25AM
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HeartBeatFaster
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Or even land correctly... like PK stomped his trick but his skis stuck in the soft snow immediately ejecting him and now he has a broken neck. Not really something to be messing around with.
May 18 2009 3:01PM
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Kevski
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So you'd only have another 90 feet to go on a JOSS jump.

That's the thing, these jumps are unbelievably huge. You go to the regular big jumps in any average park, and then double that to get the JOSS jumps. I don't think any girl would do anything more than a straight air or possibly a 3 over them, just due to the size and consequences.
As for Sarah in Push, she hit the jump the day before it got made bigger. Yes, it was still big, and she stomped a 3 over it, but she didn't hit it when it was pushed back, and other guys were doing much bigger tricks... I remember seeing her do a 9 over a big gap in some footage from last season, and for the WSI big air the girls were going for 10's and 12's, but I don't think women just are quite ready for Jon's jumps yet.

As for you, the girl I'm quoting, I think your attitude is what women's skiing needs. You're a sick skier, and don't have that awkward reluctant steeze many girls have. It's girls like you that will probably progress enough to hit JOSS stuff.

Wow I said "Jump" so many times that word just looks and sounds funny and has no meaning any more...
May 18 2009 3:32PM
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Nadia.
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Normal sized jumps are 30ft? Maybe in the whistler beginner blue park...
May 18 2009 4:20PM
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steveyp
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Jon should build them a 10 footer that they can play on, somewhere near the mens' jumps
May 18 2009 4:26PM
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keepon_trucking
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I think it would just be embarrassing for any of the girls competing mainly because the jumps are so big they wouldn't want to hit them.

and inevitably one of them would try, come up 30 feet short, and destroy herself
May 18 2009 4:50PM
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T.Hartman
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you have a valid point.

boobs do make it harder to set rotation and flips.
May 18 2009 6:43PM
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Nadia.
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I dunno man, female gymnasts and divers seem to do just fine. I'm sick of hearing the excuses people come up with, especially "physical strength". Point is women figure skaters, gymnasts and divers all seem to be almost on par with men, Mind you some men skaters spin quads, while most women spin triples, but its way closer than skiing is, thats for sure.

Women are just further behind in progression, as there are fewer and they need to push themselves harder. The sport is relatively new, and there are a few girls pushing the envelope, but a lot of them seem to be stoked on the fact they can throw ungrabbed 7s. I'm not a park skier, mind you. I do big mtn and SX, but the women hit all the same stuff as the men in both those events. Including 120ft tables. There is no reason they shouldn't be closer to the mens field in park.
May 20 2009 1:04AM
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nzeagle
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HAHA best idea yet
May 20 2009 2:16AM
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finnajon5
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i dunno, there are some amazing girl skiers out there, JOSS is for basically the best skiers in the world, handpicked by jon, so if there was some epic girl who showed up throwin down, my bet would be jon would put her into JOSS
May 20 2009 5:19PM
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skodeo7
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Kaya and Roz would be a worthy team fo sho.
May 20 2009 5:22PM
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i.am.a.skier.
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its a good idea(ish)

i think no girls would be better for now until they get themselves together.  If they do want a girls team they should just do one team, from all around the world, it would make a half-legit video, but not up to the guys.

May 20 2009 5:44PM
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NaturalRotater
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Maybe instead of girls being included in the event , a JOSS based event could be created for women athletes
May 20 2009 6:00PM
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skiingonskis
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no one would watch joss if it was small jumps...
May 20 2009 6:05PM
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ECfreeski3
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agreed on all points. and yeah she throws at least one misty7
May 20 2009 6:10PM
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AlexGaynor
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i think this "awkward reluctant steeze" is a big issue. Its that feeling of uneasiness you can sense when ever watching a girl's edit. i agree with him this girl, Jakie, doesnt have it, she is hella legit. Most girls look scared when they jump, thats the best way to describe it. I personally don't like it in vids. Idk if you guys get what im describing, it basically looks like a lack of confidence.

Another idea. the biggest jumps on any hill are big enough for almost all the girls out there to progress on. Otherwise if what you are after is competition/filming/photoshoot joss style, maybe a top female rider can step up and make a chicks-only joss. For anyone out there claiming there is a generous amount of chicks out there that are legit riders, why does this not happen. Maybe because it would not be popular. If it can't make it alone why would we want it introduced to JOSS?

after saying that, im all down for chicks riding, especially with me
May 20 2009 6:21PM
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jason...
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It would hurt the womens side of the sport because then more of the general public would see how much most professional female skiers suck compared to most male professional skiers.
May 20 2009 7:56PM
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Lemuel
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i didn't feel liek reading the whole thread this time, and it has probably already been said, but Jon could make the teams 3 people, 2 guys 1 girl.  That way it would be fair to all the teams.  There are alot of girls steeping their games up out there and I think this would be a great way for them to show their stuff.
May 20 2009 8:49PM
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marley-skis
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exactly
May 20 2009 9:04PM
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tmckz_ski
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May 23 2009 7:29PM
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EastCoast315
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May 23 2009 7:32PM
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mac.N.steeze
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wait....
is JOSS now being held in a kitchen??
May 23 2009 7:42PM
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mastapat
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https://newschoolers.com/web/content/viewvideo/id/270843/

whos this chik?? give her a year or 2 and send her! she would do good!!

May 23 2009 9:41PM
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mastapat
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Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

i hope tht worked

May 23 2009 9:42PM
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