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linetahoe07
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this will probably create some ridiculous unseen controversy, or just turn into another afterbang thread, but what the hell... does style matter that much anymore? when i started free skiing, i was heavily influenced by tanner, pep, liam, vanular, crichton, rainville... skiers whose 5's were their sickest trick, and every trick they threw was oozing with style. now it seems like up coming kids are forgetting about how dope the trick is and just trying to spin and flip the most, and kids on here are going bonkers over it. henitiuk is the one shining exception to this, and its sad he isnt more popular because everything he does is dirty. wallisch is smooth as hell too. dont get me wrong, i dont hate doubles, 12s or 10s, i love 10s...that look good, my point is just that the old mentality of "it doesnt matter what trick you do, as long as it looks dope" is gone and now its only about how many ungrabbed flips you can get off the rail. that is kinda sad because skiing is no where near as pretty anymore, and when all the original skiers are gone, all thats left will be a bunch of hucking.
Jul 8 2008 11:03PM
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SteezeJunky
Posts: 16 - Karma: 10
its a bit like snowboarding and skiing have switched. snowboarding used to be all about hucking. now its mostly style. Skiing is starting to seem like it doesnt matter how smooth, just as long as you do it. you know?
Jul 10 2008 3:32PM
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skiEER
Posts: 4089 - Karma: 79
its part of progression the first time you throw a trick it is gonna be hucked it takes time to get comfortable with it and make it style
Jul 10 2008 4:00PM
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mattwalker
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bump. i know some people have great style now days, but it seems like it isnt as important anymore. style should be the biggest concern for up and comers on NS, far above "whats your best trick bro!?!?!... haha, o really, only a 12? i must be better than you..." however, i dont mean everybody should go copy the new afterbang style of wallisch and brogan with your hands at your waist. wallisch is so smooth, and doing insane tricks with ease, but you cant progress wallisch's style better or faster than him, its his! it looks sick and it is the new thing, but make your own fluid style of what feels right. for tanner it was looking like a gorilla, pep is just plain smooth, rainville and vanular stomp like uhhhh, and i have yet to see liam downey move his arms. they do their thing and it all looks sick and adds to the sport. get influenced by the greats, but make and evolve your own style and care about how your 7 looks more than how many ungrabbed 14s you can land....
Jul 10 2008 10:43PM
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papasteeze
Posts: 12055 - Karma: 913
In the words of Pep Fujas.  "your style is who you are"   well written matt.
Jul 10 2008 10:47PM
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jKutcher
Posts: 3936 - Karma: 4,260
so perfect.  i heart you
Jul 11 2008 12:07AM
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K-Thomas
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winner.
Jul 11 2008 1:01AM
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East.
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The standard of both style and skill is constantly rising.. and you've got to start somewhere. No ones first three's oozed with any steeze or style.. most people just tried to land on two feet. As time progresses, we'll see more comfortable, yet harder tricks with much better style. Just because someone does a switch 10 doesn't mean it won't look good. 6 years ago a 10 would probably be hucked, but now pros are throwing down smoother than ever. I agree in the sense that we should concentrate on style over trick choice, but progression is slowly taking over and inevitably everyone is going to be hucking more and more spins and flips. But I wouldn't worry too much... style only follows the progression.. just be patient.
Jul 11 2008 1:17AM
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quebecfreestyler
Posts: 13040 - Karma: 1,419
style is personal.

Spin slow or fast as long as you like it and enjoy doing it.
I'm a big fan of mixing everything together and that made up my style. It's definatly not wallsisch smoothness and technicality and it's different then brad holmes hucking.

People should try to find their own style, it might be in hucked triple flips, in smooth big rotation or during some axis spins under 540and on different axis.
Style should define the way you ski and not the tricks you do.



CharlesGagnier have his style weither it's a fakie 12, a 270 pretzel out on a urban rail or an unnatural cork9 you can pretty much recognize him by the way he ski. You can do the same thing with Eric Polard and a whole bunch of other skiers who have their own style.

Clothing is part of the style and the you you move ski grabd land  takeoff is all part of style too.

I appreciate seeing people that have their own defined style more then peoples who are technically perfect and do stuff like someone else is doing. Sometimes I dont like someone's style but anyway, why should that someone care about my opinion, it's his style, not mine.





Jul 11 2008 1:32AM
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Hovan
Posts: 664 - Karma: 30
so so true man, nie post
Jul 11 2008 2:01AM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
sort of related but i was watching lss the other day and specifically vanulars part. and he definitely already had a bit of afterbang. looked sick though. that and the best stare up the hill claim EVER on his rodeo nine.
Jul 11 2008 2:23AM
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DavidStewart
Posts: 247 - Karma: 416
go ryan
Jul 11 2008 3:19AM
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jKutcher
Posts: 3936 - Karma: 4,260
Thats what I'm saying but I feel like kids are just trying to get that next rotation, blowing off grabbing or just doing a really stock grab.
Jul 11 2008 11:20AM
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TomasAa
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Espen Linnerud from norway has siick style!!
Remember his part in TBC? .....STYLE!
Jul 11 2008 12:44PM
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[~_~]
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His 360 over that table was oooooozing with perfection!
Jul 11 2008 1:54PM
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jKutcher
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yeh
Jul 11 2008 9:23PM
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djikstra
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word, I feel like the up and comers like 4 years ago were so worried about making their style better not their spins, like dash longe for example, I remember when he was still first kinda breaking out on to the scene he said in an interview that he wasnt going to spin over 5 i think it was until he could do multiple 5s really steezy, now kids are making sure their boot grab is dialed in and moving to the next trick. yeah your tricks need to start somewhere but if your 5s are still ugly you shouldnt be worrying about boot grabbing your kang flips, u should be making ur 5s ill. think about the diversity of grabs that people do in their double flips. with the exception of clarke pretty much, everyone is grabbing japan, the tindy of skiing... yeah japans can be sick but dont bother trying to argue that they are tweaked cool or grabbed differently in dub flips... they might as well be safetys...
Jul 11 2008 11:22PM
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TBarnes
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I like where your head is at, and I 100% agree with you. buutttt, there isn't necessarily  anything wrong with doing "stock grabs". Just as good style has nothing to do with how hard of a trick you can do, it also has nothing to do with the difficulty of your grabs. Doing a difficult grab doesn't automatically make a trick look good, and it definitely doesn't automatically give you good style. Pollard does "stock grabs" all the time and i doubt that anyone would say he has bad style. I think, to have good style, you need to be so comfortable doing the tricks you do, that you can do any grab  or no grab and still have the trick look good. Then your style becomes defined by the grabs and tricks you CHOOSE to do (and how you do them), not by what is most technically difficult.
Jul 12 2008 12:04AM
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jKutcher
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I see what you are saying.  All i meant by that is that people do their double flips and then throw in like a safety or boot grab to try and make it more legit and say they grabbed.  I just dont really consider doing a safety with a double much more legit than no grab.
Jul 12 2008 2:57AM
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garettnorthey
Posts: 3049 - Karma: 173
Wow! I had to look at the date of this.......

This same topic has been brought up so many time 3 YEARS AGO! I am all for the be as steezy as you can be, and don't huck your meat. But serously this topic has been addressed so many times.
Jul 12 2008 3:00AM
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jKutcher
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it needed to be brought up
Jul 12 2008 3:04AM
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.Capn.
Posts: 1454 - Karma: 152
Could not agree more. First off don't get me wrong I like some dubs. But I think that gus's double in the coc session A vid might have been the ugliest trick ever. It is so fast I can't even tell whats going on, and when I watch a vid I like to say every trick in my head and I cant with that. Also for people saying just give it time for style to be added in, I just see no way with dubs like that. And thats not the only one I also dislike the pistol flip. On a side note, Kenworthys corks and rails are very baller.
Jul 12 2008 5:43PM
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jKutcher
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truth
Jul 12 2008 9:42PM
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beardstatus
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asian that was a frickin hilarious point, and its preetty true too. its almost like there is a certain style "mould" you have to fit into or you're not styley.









rainville's and decker's cork 5 blunts make me cringe as to how amazing they are.
- heff


   Sean Decker FTW!

Jul 12 2008 10:21PM
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djikstra
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Jul 12 2008 10:30PM
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Malcolm
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sometimes safetys look sick. depends how theyre done tho
Jul 12 2008 10:35PM
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Colston
Posts: 168 - Karma: 113

To me style is the determining factor between the top pro skiers and the average joes . a persons actual skiing strength natural ability and individual style is what makes them a good skier, not just gymnastics on snow.
Jul 13 2008 12:11AM
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landonn
Posts: 2913 - Karma: 385

steeze should always be worth more. not trying to claim but i can do lots of spins and flips but i know my steeze isnt that great.  it takes lots more time and skill to do most tricks with great style instead of being fearless and hucking.

Jul 13 2008 12:18AM
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[~_~]
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Style is more than the way you look when you ski. It is also what features you hit and how you hit them.
Jul 13 2008 12:31AM
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jKutcher
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neat
Jul 14 2008 2:23AM
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skiizy
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good call, and in terms of flips pete olenick's whiskey flip in his pipe run screams style
Jul 14 2008 7:58AM
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drewishish
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you my good friend. are hilarious
Jul 14 2008 8:11AM
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Meases_Pieces
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ya not just hitting perfect jumps and spinning huge but doing difficult and challenging features.
Jul 14 2008 3:10PM
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EthanJPAskier
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I'm definitly more of a style guy myself. I'd rather throw a stylie 5 than huck a 7 or 9
Jul 14 2008 7:50PM
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chucktown
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yup
Jul 14 2008 10:10PM
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mattwalker
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p-mub
Jul 15 2008 8:34PM
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TheWorst
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ahaha so true, there is no need to huck even a 12 if you have a big enough jump
Jul 15 2008 10:02PM
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[~_~]
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I was talking more along the lines of creativity over size...
Jul 17 2008 3:35PM
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Ben.
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thats my biggest problem with skiing today. i have no problem with the direction actual style is going, more the fact that its still so close-minded about style. Skiing is the only sport out there that i see that still doesnt really have more than one style. Skateboarding has hundreds, snowboarding has several. Rollerblading... idk. i just hate this restriction.
Jul 19 2008 9:07PM
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Whitlock
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Word.
Jul 19 2008 9:30PM
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bfnradford
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fer serious?
Jul 20 2008 11:42AM
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Kev-Kev.
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180 = best trick ever made. you can do anything with it.
Jul 21 2008 12:41AM
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masta_LE3B
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yeah, exactly
Jul 21 2008 1:06AM
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Ryanvdonk
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adam delorme ftw...and his safeties kill it, so i'd have to disagree with that a huge grab bag is need, pollard does pretty much safety and critical and has some of the best style in the game.
Jul 21 2008 1:44AM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
this is my point. in skiing theres still this thoght that theres only one good style. whereas in skating or snowboarding theres so many different ones each with their own steez
Jul 21 2008 2:50AM
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cfox
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done perfect
Jul 21 2008 3:48AM
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Ryanvdonk
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umm no, if you've watched the two people i've listed ski, you'd notice two different styles, that's why there will never be one person with THE BEST style, but a few who are leaders in style.
Jul 21 2008 12:41PM
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