Some people are out of their fucking mind

If you want to take risks like free-soloing, you are entirely free to, but do you really think it's fair to leave his daughter and his wife without a father/husband simply so he could do what he loves?
please go back and actually read what i've already posted, it's pretty self explanitory.

you rushed this response, go read what i said

i know we participate in inherently dangerous sports, it is a bit selfish for all of us to risk this, i accept that yes i am a bit selfish for doing what i'm doing. However there is a line of ballence that needs to be walked.

You can't prevent every danger, but there are precautions you can take. Checking out your line, wearing/having appropriate safty gear, knowing your limits, knowing your element all play a part in being responsible.



If my friend died in an avy because he didn't take the time to take an avy course, went out on a sketchy day without cutting the snow to inspect the layers, without a beacon shovel probe, and without a partner. I'd be really pissed off at him for being so stupid.

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f it happened to be a freak accident it's a different circumstance, he knew the risks he was taking, he was being smart about it, and the dice just happened to roll the way they did. If you're going to put your life on the line and roll the die, you better try and make sure that die has as many sides as possible. It's better to roll a 6 sided die than it is to flip a coin, when the concequece is death.

Ya you're absolutely right, I can't recall any instances of late where skiers have died due to being reckless. I don't recall any times where mountains have been forced to take down their parks because people don't ski responsibly.

And I also don't remember the last time someone hasn't died off piste because they didn't ski with a buddy or without a beacon shovel and probe.


I’m sure that his last thoughts before he hit the ground were something like my wife and daughter are going to be so stoked for me because I am dangerous


/sarcasm



get real dude, plenty of people do stupid things everyday, each stupid action has a consequence -- sometimes the consequence affects the rest of the community. Why you've got to hate on a message of responsibility is beyond me. If everyone was responsible 100% of the time, perhaps your comment might be warrantable, but that is not the case. So you sir can take a bit of your own advice and shut the fuck up.

just imagine him on skis

I’ve heard from plenty of climbers who agree free-soloing is just straight stupid.  What the fuck is wrong with you when someone comes on saying be a little responsible you take it like it's a personal attack.  I haven’t been preaching a halt on doing anything, fuck, I’m saying to be fucking smart about stuff, know your responsibilities and not to do things stupid dangerous. 

What kind of parent are you going to be when you think that having a kid has no bearing on your responsibilities. You think you'd be able to go out to a concert on Thursday and not come home until Sunday, keep fucking around with drugs and shit, because that's what you love to do when you've got a family?  Wrong-- it's a fucking responsibility that you can't just ditch because you want to. I'm sorry you lost a parent, but if you're saying I can't know what it's like to lose a parent because I haven’t experienced it, then unless you lost a parent because they did something irrationally dangerous you can't claim to know what that's like either. 

I don't think you need to experience something to be able to make a good guess at how you'd feel in a particular situation-- but I think if I lost my dad because he was doing something stupid -- climbing without a rope, driving drunk, od'ing on drugs, etc. I wouldn't be pretty proud of him, I’d be kind of upset at him

If he 'knew' (really truly Knew) the dangers of free-soloing he'd be less respectable. But you can't honestly know exactly how dangerous that shit is when you go climb it you're too busy being cocky on how good you are so you can climb it. (You’re not going to be anything but cocky, which is an underestimation of risk-- not really Knowing how dangerous that shit is) 

Sorry you've got too take this as a PSA, when it's just not view of admiration. Perhaps you think I sound like I’m speaking from a throne of infinite wisdom because you lack normal common sense.  I'd expect everyone to be able to be rational-- only a few prats like you can't reason out what the word responsibility means.


You've already ceded my point that we've got to be smart and be safe. Whatever else you say is just wasting breath.