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Karmas=Discontinued

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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
Volkl, why did you have to break my heart like that? You will be missed.

http://www.volkl.com/ski/images/0708_volkl_skis.pdf
Aug 19 2007 6:05PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
my bad, I know you're all too lazy to copy and paste.

http://www.volkl.com/ski/images/0708_volkl_skis.pdf
Aug 19 2007 6:09PM
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GatoGordo
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 10
Are your fingers retarded or is it just you?

But seriously, this is kind of old news, and it does suck. The new Bridges are real nice, but i do like the Karmas a bit more.
Aug 19 2007 6:11PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
fingers? what's wrong with my fingers?
Aug 19 2007 6:13PM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
I guess a Bridge is not that much wider than the karma. and a wall is not that much thinner.
A Bridge and Katana will have to do if 2 pairs. if 3 pairs I would go for a Wall, Mantra and Katana. And sell your karmas or leave them for rocks. For 1 pair go bridge all the way. At least for me...
Aug 19 2007 6:23PM
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Microcosm
Posts: 4765 - Karma: 153
they're retarded. just kidding, I have no idea what he means.
Aug 19 2007 10:41PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
So, you're telling me I should sell my Karmas........ just because they stopped making them? 














That would be bad karma.
Aug 20 2007 3:24AM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
I mean that if u ski a minimum of 50 days a year you will notice after a couple of seasons that you lovely old karmas havent got the pop or the stiffnesss they had before even with wood core (a pocket rocket or mostly any salomon or ski without wood wont last more than 40 days for me).
Aug 20 2007 9:47AM
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analog4ndy
Posts: 260 - Karma: 10
i wonder how the wall is gonna be. If it's anything like the karma i'm sure it'll do fine.
Aug 20 2007 10:00AM
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Sz.Karpiel
Posts: 402 - Karma: 4,245
Wall is like half leighter than Karma and it's a lil bit softer
Aug 20 2007 10:06AM
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CBROOKS
Posts: 4979 - Karma: 10,708
ahaha shits jokesss
Aug 20 2007 10:07AM
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analog4ndy
Posts: 260 - Karma: 10
sweet, how'd they ride?
Aug 20 2007 10:20AM
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Sz.Karpiel
Posts: 402 - Karma: 4,245
they're really cool. They got better edges and the design is really sick. The only bad thing is that they don't have a race base (black) which is a lil bit faster but the difference isn't that big. They're really light especially with the Marker Jester Binding which is the sickest I've ever rode.
Aug 20 2007 10:30AM
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Justo8484
Posts: 3905 - Karma: 205
those bindings are the best thing marker has done in decades
Aug 20 2007 11:48AM
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Sz.Karpiel
Posts: 402 - Karma: 4,245
yes withouth doubt
Aug 20 2007 12:45PM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 147
I feel like the Bridge is gunna be too big and stiff for park. The Wall on the other hand looks good for park and it is a Volkl ski so it should hold up on the rest of the mountain
Aug 20 2007 2:01PM
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JeffersonDavis
Posts: 1167 - Karma: 14
good i hope volkl drops off the scene totally and focuses on what their good at- making gaper ass racing skis.

Their team is way too chill to ride for them, Line should pick all of them up

Volkls entire lineup is weak, their skis are sick but the graphics and their entire image is gay as fuck.
Aug 20 2007 2:20PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
So what you're saying is they make awesome skis, but because they have a racing background, they are lame?

/yourself. Seriously.
Aug 20 2007 2:29PM
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ScratchFS91
Posts: 678 - Karma: 27
yeh i'd go wall

it looks sick
Aug 20 2007 2:33PM
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ScratchFS91
Posts: 678 - Karma: 27
and bridge with a 130 tip and a 112 tail, i dono how it'll be in the park
Aug 20 2007 2:35PM
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charmander
Posts: 10636 - Karma: 370
this is stupid, i love my karmas and it sez you need the extra width to ride seriously deep pow, learn to ski, my karmas have been in thogh deep powder and there fine
volkls retarded
Aug 20 2007 3:20PM
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charmander
Posts: 10636 - Karma: 370
the katana looks sick though
Aug 20 2007 3:27PM
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T*Ski
Posts: 759 - Karma: 33
i didnt really like the karmas anyways
Aug 20 2007 4:32PM
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anxju
Posts: 9371 - Karma: 61
i remember people used to love karmas
Aug 20 2007 4:34PM
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GatoGordo
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 10
I have demoed both the Wall and Bridge last year, and they were both great. The Wall is actually not that bad for all mountain even with it being center mounted, and symmetrical. They are about the same stiffness as the Karmas, maybe a little bit softer. The Bridges were stiffer than the Karmas, but handled about the same. I found that they did not do so well in the moguls, but that was because i was given the 180 something, and im 5'6. If you are doing more park than anything else, go with the Walls, and if you are doing less park than everything else, go with the Bridges. The Bridges are 92 underfoot, so they would be alright in East Coast powder.
Aug 20 2007 5:05PM
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Sz.Karpiel
Posts: 402 - Karma: 4,245
Voelkl is a huge corporation and if they make sick racing skis but they also make sick freestyle skis as well. They've got a good experience in making skis so they can easily use it in freeskiing the same as Rossi, Salomon and other huge corporations. Voelkl make the most stable skis on the market and that's their plus WATCH--> KARMA. Every company like ROssi, Salomon, Fischer and some other got a racing past so I think it's good. That's all I got to say. Peace,
Szczepan
Aug 20 2007 5:52PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
they both look like good skis. i'm just pissed they stopped making the Karma.  It's different from both of the skis. I love my Karmas.
Aug 20 2007 6:39PM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
oh no. why oh why? oh woe is the ski world, how could they ever replace a ski that changed every year and was lame? oh god... oh no, wait, is that? yep, a direct replacement. wow. for "switch riding"

STOP BUYING THIS SHIT!!!
Aug 20 2007 9:18PM
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Tucks
Posts: 2120 - Karma: 161
bummer
Aug 20 2007 9:24PM
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Luc.
Posts: 7540 - Karma: 59
reppin the last karmas. 06-07 185s. oooooo i love them so.
Aug 20 2007 9:33PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
Please enlighten me how volkl is "shit" and "lame".  You're just jealous because they actually know how to make a ski.

and ^sir_holland, I rep the 05-06 and cherish every moment on them


Aug 20 2007 9:38PM
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Pirruccio
Posts: 1301 - Karma: 70
so expensive
Aug 20 2007 10:21PM
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KSdesign
Posts: 687 - Karma: 175
they got rid of the DOGENS too?!?! ...according to that link up there, bummer.
Aug 20 2007 11:14PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Get your shit straight.

Karmas were one of the best skiing all-mountain twin out the past few years.
Aug 21 2007 9:26AM
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joe_cool_ski
Posts: 796 - Karma: 9
The Wall is one of the best pair of skis I have ever been on. I have every year of the karma and they were a nice ski and years ahead of the pack when they first came out...the wall and the bridge are nice replacements.
Aug 21 2007 9:32AM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
sorry, I just wont support a company that puts quotations around rail rails switch or riding. its just my opinion. Cause you know some old dood at volkl is sitting there laughing his ass off at us while he puts out the green light for that kind of language. so fuck em!
Buy from companies that need your business.

Aug 21 2007 12:41PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Oh you're one of those "independent" guys who don't actually fully understand the world of economics.

Fact is, the Karma was a damn good all-around twin, and it should be bought based on that, not clever marketing alone.
Aug 21 2007 1:57PM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
Still havent seen a ski that is better constructed than a volkl. period. No armadas, no k2, no line, roosi, etc. and talking fs not race.

and ive tried a lot really, and riding a volkl is definetly something different from all others.. for me
Aug 21 2007 1:59PM
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