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Sratch vs. Troublemaker

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P-JO
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I can't really decide on whether to get the these scratches, white/blue lady ones.
OR the 04' Troublemakers
Its really a hard decision. Both prices for the skis are similar.







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Aug 4 2003 7:14PM
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P-JO
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damn i spelled scratch (sratch) wrong on the title thing.







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Aug 4 2003 7:15PM
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rossignolscratch
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i think id go for the troublemakers.
unless u want to buy the green scratches id buy those.







i cant wait for next season...
Aug 4 2003 9:47PM
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shawnm1260
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yea the blue and white scratchs are just the price point ski... there still good but the fs is a closer match to the tm
Aug 4 2003 11:38PM
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P-JO
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oh yeah, my friend just told me about the difference between the scratch and the scratch FS. But I already decided to get the Troublemakers unless anyone has an objection to the Troublemaker Vs. Scratch FS?







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Aug 5 2003 12:41AM
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XxRoSSiSCraTchxX
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i prefer the scratches my friend has a pair of the troublemakers and he said they were ok but he went right back to his old scratches after
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Aug 5 2003 1:56AM
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P-JO
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yeah i think ill just flip a coin.







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Aug 5 2003 2:22AM
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BigPerm
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im having the same problem, but you cant really go wrong either way, both very solid skis.
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Aug 5 2003 2:40AM
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NH_LiNe
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I cant decide if I should keep these,



or by the public enemies or trouble makers...



or



What do you all think I was thinking public enemies?



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Aug 5 2003 4:08PM
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smuggs
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the publics have a hideous bases. and picking between scratches and TMS should be no thinking involved. tms all the way i have a pair for sale!!!! message me

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Aug 5 2003 5:41PM
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NH_LiNe
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NO WAY, i love the public enemies base it looks so sick

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Aug 6 2003 12:30AM
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CTripper
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keep the lines if you're into shipping skis back to get them warrantied
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Aug 6 2003 1:22AM
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BigPerm
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haha, yea, if i were you i wouldnt stay with the lines, i had some 2 years ago and i tried the tms at camp, trust me you dont want lines.
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acc
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i had the scratches last year. i liked them alot except for the fact they sucked it up on crummy groomed while going fast. i have the tms and have ridden them 3-4 times and love them. lil wider and very fun to ski. i've heard they're not the greatest all mountain ski for the east though either

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Aug 6 2003 6:40PM
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nozpress
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public enemies are by far the stiffest and most stable of them, so get them if u want a better all mountain ski.
Aug 6 2003 7:20PM
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doghoy
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what do you guys say is better for east coast skiing, as i mean like no pow, hard pack and groomed basically... tms or scratches? thanks 4 any input

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Aug 8 2003 5:47AM
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schlonginator
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TROUBLE MAKERS !!!! GET THE TMs




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Aug 8 2003 6:19AM
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Naturalbornskier
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Looks like an equal amount of people going both ways. Up to you dude
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Aug 9 2003 8:18PM
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Vtsnowski
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scratches are sexy




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Aug 9 2003 9:36PM
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linemaverick540
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the tms change color? im lost.. i didnt know that


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Aug 9 2003 9:47PM
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P-JO
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green blue black and purplish i think.







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Aug 9 2003 9:50PM
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linemaverick540
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i never heard of that before, thats crazy haha


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Aug 9 2003 10:03PM
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tito_skier
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Ya both are exellent skis just see if any demos come to your mountain then try them out if you don't need skis right away it is the best way to go becasue you get to try the ski. And by the way get the scratchs
Aug 11 2003 3:42AM
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P-JO
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Jared do you know your talking to pat jones? Na man I changed my mind and im gettin 4frnts or Troublemakers.




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Aug 11 2003 4:23AM
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mo-rod
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the 03-04 scratchs that are on loan to me till december are all this greyish colour on top is this because they hadn't picked the design yet?

Also the PE base looks fine. But volkl ski better than all of them, even though the cap for the volkls is retared.

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Aug 11 2003 4:53AM
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tito_skier
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Ya pat I knew that but I was also talking to the kid is deciding wether to keep his lines or get other skis
Aug 11 2003 3:49PM
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P-JO
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oh, well its my thread so that kid can fuck off. He can make his own thread.




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Aug 11 2003 5:56PM
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tito_skier
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Pat get the 4frnts they are cooler in my opinion but that is me
Aug 11 2003 8:40PM
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P-JO
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yeah but they're wide for MI.




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Aug 11 2003 9:19PM
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tito_skier
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Ya But they are not that wide that you couldn't ride them here
Aug 11 2003 9:45PM
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NH_LiNe
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im so sorry P-JO actually, not at all am i sorry i just figured there is 100 threads on kids wantting help of what skis to get so i would just post the help i need in this instead of making a new thread

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Aug 12 2003 7:16PM
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mo-rod
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who cares who thread it is, just talk about skiing, why u all gotta bitch so often.

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Aug 12 2003 7:25PM
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P-JO
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yeah I don't really care.




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Aug 12 2003 7:26PM
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