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True Twin skis

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Fish_Sandwich.
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What are all the skis that are true twins like the Addicts or Invaders. Also are Fjatives as more or less flexible than these skis? I like my Fujas but I'm thinking it might have been better to get a true twin for easier riding switch. I was told that the Fujas are the most flexible ski on the market, so it should be easy to do butters right, also would a longer or shorter ski be easier to butter on?
Dec 9 2006 3:35PM
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Casey
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you really don't need a symmetrical twin to ride switch.
Dec 9 2006 3:42PM
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Republican_Enemy
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I am new to sking and cant answer your question but i love the feel of my new Fujatives and i got 169, as opposed to every1 saying 179, i cant get the feel for OD big skis
Dec 9 2006 3:43PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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I know i don't need it but it would make it a bit easier and I plan on riding switch a lot with my twins.
Dec 9 2006 3:43PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Ya I got 169's as well and I'm 5'10 145 lbs. I'm used to skiing a ski that is similar to a race ski and it's 165.
Dec 9 2006 3:44PM
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treesmann
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i just rode my 169 fujatives core center for the first time yesterday. there were no rails or jumps up yet, but there was a phenomenal difference skiing switch as opposed to my 155 midsole nothin but troubles.
Dec 9 2006 3:46PM
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Black-Bandanna
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thats pretty damn small if you're 5'10"
Dec 9 2006 4:40PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Eh, it seems fine cause I'm used to a smaller ski and I didn't want to go all the way to 179, what are the advantages of a longer ski anyway?
Dec 9 2006 5:24PM
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Republican_Enemy
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i'm 5'11 180 and the 169's are perfect, i dont care what ppl say. I cant work well with huge Ski's
Dec 9 2006 5:24PM
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MLB
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these true twins are the only real tiwns that you can centre mount with out fucking up your body, and the way the ski rides. For landing, riding switch it gives you alot more stability/carving power. For pure park, these skis are the way to go.
Dec 9 2006 5:30PM
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Neffer
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the true twin means is the tip and tail are the same height (as of like 4 years ago in the line catalog..maybe not anymore). it really doesn't make that much of a difference. as for them being symmetrical, i thought riding switch on the troublemakers felt better than it did on my 1260's.

also, length is all about personal preference. there is no set rule that you need to follow. i personally like them anywhere between my eyes and like 2-3 inches above my head, which is 165-175.
Dec 9 2006 5:33PM
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tjski
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Fujatives are true twins, and they do flex a lot, and shorter skis are easier to butter with.
Dec 9 2006 5:44PM
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Tucks
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Invaders are good for all the above except the brake easy
Dec 9 2006 5:56PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
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fujatives will be good switch even if they arent true twins which i dont know if they are. Where you mount your bindings on your park skis is more important than true twin or not when youre skiing switch
Dec 9 2006 6:19PM
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n-o
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youll need a larger tip for skiing switch in the pow pow, but otherwise it doesnt make a differene really
Dec 9 2006 6:41PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Alright, thanks fo' the info guys. I don't plan on skiing much powder just because I don't get the opportunity. How do I tell how far back my bindings are is it with the toe or heel piece? I can get a re-mount for $30 so I'll probably do that. The Fujas aren't true twins (tip and teal dims are different). For those of you that have your Fujas mounted dead center: Is there any disadvantages of doing this?
Dec 10 2006 1:36AM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
the Fujas are not the softest skis ever. the old STLs are. they are my current ride, and are well broken in. it requires ZERO effort to ride straight vertical manuals. and anyone who is roughly 5.5 ft tall, on 169 skis, especially super soft core center ones, that is VERY short. i am 510, 155, and ride mid 180s. the thing is, is that this style of ski rides VERY short, so you need roughly 10-20 cm extra length to accomidate the mounting position and loss of running length for it to ride anywhere like you would want a good ski to ski. if you find the swing wieght too much, try a lighter ski, or workout. i GARENTEE you will like them much more.
Dec 10 2006 1:58AM
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ski_cartel
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you dont need a"true" twin to ski switch at all. I can ski switch in my teaching skis(dynastar race60's) just as well as on a twin tip as long as in on a groomer. ANy where else and im not skiing switch anyway 
Dec 10 2006 1:58AM
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steezeninja
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A true twin tip is a ski that has the same width at both ends of the tip. Like the Anthems which had a 110/93/110. Both tails are equal in width. You can butter pretty much any ski. Shorter skis are way easier to butter than longer skis. But soft skis like the Fujis are very easy to butter.
Dec 10 2006 2:11AM
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seanjurewicz
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Go with ski blades. Then you don't need to butter, you can just join all the dumb kids that think that you should get them so you can pop 7's off the ground. And you should ride no poles while you're at it. BTW...not a joke: you can ride switch on any twin tip ski....
Dec 10 2006 2:15AM
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Sharko
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I like how everyone thinks they can just make up their own definition of "true" twin tip
Dec 10 2006 2:16AM
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wdbo.
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think about this logically, you have skis that are good and you like them. so why get new skis that i guarantee wont make that much of a difference
Dec 10 2006 2:17AM
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quebecfreestyler
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invaders, addicts, triplets.
they are the only true twins right now.

i havent cracked an edge on triplet in one year, just for the rcord.
Dec 10 2006 2:21AM
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Keenbo
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blah blah blah u suck
Dec 10 2006 2:41AM
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Sharko
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wow, very classy
Dec 10 2006 2:43AM
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Keenbo
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extremely classy....what can i say
Dec 10 2006 2:46AM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Yo, I know I can ride switch on any ski I do it on my RX8's occasionaly and the tails are like .0001 mm off the ground. I was merely wondering how much easier it would be if I had true twins (I know what they are just wondering how many skis and what ones are true twins, didn't wanna have to look myself).
Dec 10 2006 3:03AM
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quebecfreestyler
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Right now, true twins aremade to ski as weel one way or another so you have the same sidecut goingbackward or foward, blah blah blah i suck
Dec 10 2006 3:14AM
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Keenbo
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no your good
Dec 10 2006 3:19AM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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I think I just worry too much about not having absolutely perfect shit, I gotta roll wit it. It's not like I won't be able to hit jumps, jibs, rails, and ski switch on these the way they are. I'll ski them more and if I really feel the need to center mount the bindings I'll do that.
Dec 10 2006 3:28AM
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Sharko
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Your skis are like your children: love them for what they are, don't wish they were something better
Dec 10 2006 3:49AM
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Ryanvdonk
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don't forget the habit (cheaper, skinnier version of the addict), also the orange 1260s with the DJ on them.
Dec 10 2006 5:04AM
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seanjurewicz
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You're hitting rails and riding switch and they aren't center mounted? That's your problem right there.
Dec 11 2006 12:20AM
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DaysToCome
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pussy. go snowblade
Dec 11 2006 12:28AM
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SkiMN
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You dont need to worry about a symetrical twintip, if you ski switch in such fucked up situations where that extra millimeter matters than your fucked up. You just need a full twin, which most freestyle skis are.
Dec 11 2006 12:35AM
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[~_~]
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I HATE the Fujative in any other size than the 179. The shorter ones feel like snowblades and butter too easily. the 179 is soft but has more length, so its more stable.
Dec 11 2006 12:36AM
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snowbird4life
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its hard not to get frustrated with people when they kinda talk about dumb shit that doesnt really matter, but you just gotta realise some poeple havent been areound or into the sport as long as some of us.


and bigger skis are more stable, and land like 100times better, handle better at higher speeds(stable samething) and just reallyt are a lot better in my opinion
Dec 11 2006 2:47AM
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mnjib
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doesnt matter really.
Dec 11 2006 2:58AM
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Vinci
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I think riding switch with true twins is slightly easier...
Dec 11 2006 4:29AM
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