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Conservatives Across Canada Breathe a Sigh of Relief
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That they don't have to go up against Michael Ignatieff in the next federal election. When will this liberal party learn: we don't want more of the same regime that's inherited the leadership for the last 30 years. That time has passed. But instead of voting in a new direction, they vote for more of the same. They vote for the man they're most "comfortable" with, Stephane Dion, and I couldn't be more disenchanted. The liberal convention tonight will be full of excitement and hopes for the future. Across the country, though, most of us are just pissed.
I might actually have to be talked out of voting conservative in the next election. Just terrible.
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sorta suprising actualy...I thought Dion was a distant third after Iggy and Rae.
Do you know what was the slip-up Ig. did, I forgot it and its pissing me off.
Ill be honest Im sorta happy about the way Harper is doing things. You can hate on him for being a Conservative, but right now hes doing a fine job
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Being connected to Celine is considered a good thing now?
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blame canada blame canada lalalalalal
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nobody cares about canadian politics. apparently nobody told you that canada doesn't matter. its just america's largest national park.
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Even though I'm not a fan of Dion nor the Liberals, I like some of his views on environment.
But, what I really think and that I'm pleased of, is that his win is a nice gift for the Bloc Québécois and PQ for the next provincial and federal elections.
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here is my insult back:
your president is george w. bush.
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i hope to fucking god your kidding.
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Isn't it a long standing tradition that the liberal party always selects their leaders as anglophone, francophone, anglophone, francophone, etc.?
I liked Iggy though, he actually had balls and his head in the right direction. I'm suprised he didn't sweep it.
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naw, basicly they just always take a guy from quebec. Always.
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Couldn't agree more JD. And I WILL be voting conservative. I have worked with the Government of Canada for my last 2 workterms now and I do like what the conservatives are doing (used to support the liberals). So if the liberals insist on being stagnant and doing what they are most 'comfortable' with they wont be getting my vote.
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Basically I think Harper is a piece of complete scum and an utterly reprehensible human being, but he certainly hasn't screwed anything up running this country so far. Well, nothing big, at least, I have a few nit picks but I'm well aware that in the grand scheme of things, that's all they are.
I really wish I'd had a change to vote for Ignatieff. I also hope the libs lose an election in 6 months and immediately see the error of their ways and change their leader.
... Yeah, not likely, is it.
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I am definitely breathing a sigh of relief. Ignatieff scares me. Not that I am loving Harper, but I think he's the best we've got right now. So far the Tories seem to be doing an ok job. The reversal on the income trusts thing was a mistake because they promised not to do anything, but it was a dumb promise to make in the first place. As much as I am pro-business and generally want to pay as little tax as possible, you can't just have some of the biggest corporations in the country not pay any taxes. Thats hundreds of millions if not billions that is lost in revenue. Corporate tax cuts fine, we need our companies to be competitive, but not zero tax.
This whole nation thing is a fucking disaster and I curse Ignatieff for bringing up. Not that Harper should have just beaten them to the punch and just ran with it, but we wouldn't have this problem in the first place if douchebag didn't bring it up. The quebecers won't be happy with what they got and will just want more. And it will probably open a whole can of worms with the indians (I don't know what todays correct PC bullshit is, natives? aboriginals, first canadians?), inuit, metis, and probably the newfies. Fucking nation bullshit.
Also their environmental plan is a joke. I mean come on Rona, you're not fooling anybody here. Fuck Kyoto, but you gotta try harder that what you came up with.
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Ok honestly. WHY all the hate on Harper. Hes conservative, oh my god, hes the conservative leader; jesus christ now im scared... not. Somebody has to do the job, and sure thos eyes of his kinda bore through you and make you feel uncomfortable, and sure hes a hardcore Alberta Conservative, but he hasnt done anything wrong so far, in fact i think hes been doing a better than average job. No more risk of Liberal scandal, hes dropped funding for all these special recognization organizations that nobody needs, the canadian dollar is strong and the job market is good as well.
So why all the hate on Harper?
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Predictable. The same type of thing happened at my provincial conservative conference last winter. It's rare to get the proper delegate support if you have views which don't coincide with the classic template.
The conservatives havn't screwed anything up? Well, I'd say the income trust debacle wasn't exactly handled well. That made me lose my faith in the incumbent conservatives.
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canada pwns basically dont worry about it....you guys wont ever go to war so its not a big deal just let me go there and drink and i wont give a fuck what you do.
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You do know that Canada is at war right? Just the same as the U.S. and our soldiers are killed just as the american ones are.
R.I.P.
Chief Warrant Officer Robert Girouard, 46, of Bathurst, N.B.
and
Cpl. Albert Storm, 36, of Fort Erie, Ont.
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We are involved in a war now dumbass.
-aaron
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Im just happy Rea didn't get in. He fucked up northern ontario soo bad.....not good at all. I would have loved to seen Ken Dryden get in, i thought he had some great ideas. Im not sad with stephane dion.....just look at how well the liberal leadership runs with a french leader. They can get more votes in quebec, and that for the past few elections has been the factor that chooses who becomes the new PM. I think what they needed was a leader that reperesented all of canada......and he was the only candidate that can do such a thing.
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And my views on Harper are not good. Seriously, the only reason he hasn't fucked up the governement is well because we are in a minority government. He can't do anything with out the NDP, or the liberals being able to go " Ok, were down with that." I like how that works. This way I think the good ideas get through, and the shit stays out. What i don't like is his back door meetings, and how he just plainly shut the media out of the parlement. We the people should know whats going down. I hate his views on climate change and global warming, just plain stupid. Our representivie at the latest climate summit just seemed soo ignorant and stupid.
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Dion's got the environment on his mind - he even named his dog Kyoto. He's an excellent speaker, just has to work on his english a little.
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this really shouldnt be in the ski gabber
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they voted for the same thing with dion because liberals never learn. look at the ones that kept on voting for paul martin. hahaahaha, are you that oblivious or do you like turning the other cheek?
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Anyone who's actually read substantially into the political history of Martin would know that he's actually an incredibly competent and incredibly intelligent human being who's done a hell of a lot for this country, and came to power at the wrong time, probably would have done a lot more for us if not for his party fucking up. That's not really the point. The point is that they had a chance to move in a new direction and didn't. And the guy who said Dion will pick up votes in quebec, he won't. He's too hardcore as a federalist.
Hate on Harper is because I've read what he's written and said in years past, on gays, the homeless, women's rights. Especially gays. He has attempted to bury that past to become a viable political candidate. And practically he hasn't really done all that much wrong. But he's still a pretty awful human being.
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it has nothing to do with being a federalst.........quebec is split 50/50. The reason the Block always wins is because they are french, and know what the french people want. He will get votes in quebec because he is from quebec, and knows what those people want. Do you think french people want some anglo to come in telling them what is what. They are a different people with different needs, and Dion knows what those needs are.
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Im gonna go out on a limb and say JD 2007.
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No. Dion has never been popular here (Qc) and I doubt he ever will be. He's too much of a federalist; his constant fights against separatists in the past are in part responsible for that.
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no your not tehe not canada in a war....
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i dunno....my aunt said she would vote for him.....and she is from dolbo......heartland.
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didn't Harper consult with Dion before tabling the 'Quebec is a nation within Canada' thing??
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i wanted Dion to win, it's too bad he's polarized by others, and stereotyped because of the history of the liberals in quebec, and the fact Some Canadians don't want another franco PM, regardless of what he might accomplish.
Which will very likely be another minority government...
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i was really happy when martin came to power because he would be our best qualified financier, and that is what this country needs, a strong economy, not some idiot who wants to helps the first nations. the first nations have had enough coddling. theyre not oging to stand up for themselves when we are handing the world to them on a platter. they need some tough love, to be working stiffs like the rest of us so that they are motivated to do something. im all for keeping their culture, but the state of aboriginal youths is sad, and i blame it on a lack of fight in them.
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i didnt think so, but i guess i was wrong.
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He's disliked in french canada, but he cant speak english
oh my
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Do you know what kind significance that even holds?
Absolutely none
No status change
No change in government
No change in laws
Just a name for absolutely nothing, in order to make the french feel more at ease with the Conservatives
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I agree with what you say at the start, but that was a brilliant/necessary move harper took to try and appease the mess Ignatieff made. Had Harper not acted first, the Bloc would have been all over the sovereignity(sp) issue. Saying that really put them in a hard place and whoever argues it was a bad move needs to take a better look at the issue
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no wonder every other country hates us, canada is at war for our presidents screw up you should support them.
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i actually met ignatieff before he put himself forward in a bid for the leadership, he went around to a ton of places, including my university and talked with the people there to get an idea of whether he should run or not. I can honestly say I was thoroughly impressed with him and became one of his supporters. Unfortunately his one mistake was he didnt explain well nor did the press have the time to show what he truly meant with the quebec thing. He told us back then that Canada is very multicultural and that we have many nations inside of Canada, that is what makes our country so great. He also was a strong supporter of unity. He believed that Quebec wasn't the biggest problem with our country, that we are far more divided than quebec-canada. so the media went buts when he said quebec is a nation, he also would argues that the aboriginals are also a nation, as well as many other groups, what people need to understand is that a nation is NOT a country. That is why he supported it, i assure you, while he promised to not be a bitch to quebec he also was all for a united canada, while recognizing our different groups and multiculturalism. Liberals just missed out in a sure win in the next election, but Dion will still pull it off... just not decisively, Harper's days are numbered...
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^so some kiss ass politician came to your school and gave a nice speech to you and now you are a diehard liberal. Isn't that a bit impressionistic on your part.And this nation junk is bullshit. Who's to say that I am not a nation, my household is a nation, we are all nations, and so we are great. It doesn't make any sense, it is fucking useless.
And the fact that this douchebag Dion named his dog Kyoto disgusts me. It is obviously a political trick to appeal to small minded Canadians. Most informed people know that the Kyoto protocol goals are unattainable. The liberals didn't accomplish jack shit when they signed the kyoto accord. All we got was a commercial from that Rick Mercer jack ass.
I assure you that Dion's stance on the environment is a total sham. He doesn't give a shit about anything about votes, he doesn't know shit about how to stop global warming, no one really does. And the liberals never took any action on it and never proposed anything new.
I fucking hate politics there is nothing else that makes me more disenchanted with the human race entirely. It brings out the worst in people,but it is a necessary evil. Essentially just about every politician seems like a jack ass and a phony to me, at least to a certain extent. But I am sure that these liberals are the worst. Well maybe the NDP. If you care about the economy and therefore the general well being and standard of living of everyone in our country don't vote for liberal or NDP. It is a proven fact that more government regulation causes greater deadweight loss and thus greater inefficency in an economy.
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every country has its ass holes. only it seems like america's assholes are a lot more prominent in society or are more outspoken. as a mature american i give you the job of killing them.
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I vote green. My second choice is always liberal. I am actually glad that Dion was elected leader. I love his left/center federalist ideas.
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Ok to everybody who says he is disliked in french Canada.......Dion has full suppport of the Board or French and Acadian canadians. He IS FRENCH......that a big thing to french canadians.
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