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Throw some support behind the world ski tour
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With the immense amount of corporate dollas floating around the ski industry at the moment, i can see many of its problems being solved by the creation of world ski tour.
It would effectively be a hybrid of the WCT surfing tour and the PGA or EPGA golf tours, with a secondary tour based on the structure of these tours also.
For those of you not familiar with the WCT, the best 45 surfers in the world travel the globe to surf prime locations at events sponsored by the big companies in surfing: Quiksilver, Billabong, Globe, Rip Curl
There is also a secondary tour, whereby 100's of people try and qualify to be on 'the dream tour' (the WCT).
Relating this to skiing, competitions could run the same way they do today, except there would be a designated tour with points allocated based on placing. A ranking system could be developed also. The tour could incorporate events such as the US Open, WSKI, Masters and X games, but also travel to europe etc to make it a world tour.
One of the awesome factors about doing something like this would be more coverage of the sport. It would also allow for athletes to be treated better by the industry, as older skiiers wouldnt be so neglected by corporate money. If you are on the world tour, the industry is going to support you because u are visible to the public, and then we wouldnt see this ridiculous focus on young kids with potential whilst people with raw talent and ability are being foregone. It also gives a chance for brands to be better developed and would undoubetdly lead to an amazing growth in the sport.
Anyway tell me what you think. Positive criticism would be appreciated. Peace
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This is the best idea Ive posted this exact same idea a few time before liek a ticket to ride tour in snowboarding, As I live on teh gold coast i have alot of pro surfer friends and they are making mad money, the WCT runs so well and give mad props to the people on the tour, If this happened in skiing it would be amazing. I Talked to Jim Jack about a concept like this (the Head judge and President of the IFSA) and he liekd the idea but didnt understand it casue he hasnt seen the surfing structure I think this would help the sport grow in leaps and bouds, include a slopestyle event and a big mountain event and combine the scores . Its alot of work but if some one did this it would change freeskiing forever,. Pro surfing and the Asp was started by pro surfers this is what skiers need to do they need to do what Mckconkey did with the Ifsa and take it to a new level. MSI Dave Swanwicks company tried to put together an idea like this a few years ago but it didnt take off.. with enough hype some and the right people involved this would go off..
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ive been thinking about this since reading skeeze.
i think its an awesome idea, and i believe good skiers can actually ski everything. It could work, but there would be a lot of mediocre skiing. I'm gonna play the devils advocate on this one.
first off, im going to generalize a bit here. all surfing is very similar. big waves, small waves, freestylie shit. yes you have to practice each one, but in no way is the skills set as broad as it is for park to big mountain. for people to get good at skiing in any discipline they have to put a considerable amount of time into each aspect. just because you ski pow, doesnt mean you can buckle down a week before a park comp and learn park, and vice versa.
The other problem is that because people have already specialized so much already. there will be an entire generation of lopsided comps. take Shiller, best park comp skier. he isnt going to stack up to shit against guys of Hugo Harrisons calibre. The other way, i don't see Guerlain Chilcherit doing a switch 14 anytime soon. and they won't, because if you have to spend so much time practising so many diferent corners of the sport, you won't get good enough to throw a sw 14.
i presume it would consist of slopestyle, pipe, big air, big mountain and possibly racing. just freeriding will make more sense though. the only reason i respect racing is because those guys are going so fucking fast and have it down to a science. without putting that much time in to training, we owuld have a bunch of sloppy slow spandex wearing wannabe racers. and thats even worse than racing.
to be blunt, it would be a half assed tour with people throwing lame tricks and skiing pussy lines. or it would be park guys cleaning up freestlye and big mountain guys destroying freeride.
i would prefer people progressing to different aspects of the sport throughout their career. ever seen sage cattabriga on the world tour for big mountain, it was rad.
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Guerlain Chilcherit can do double backs , cork 7s and rodeos and im sure he can do lots of other shit, TJ fukin rips big mountain with a little practise he could kill it in bigmountain comps, and there could be no racing , skier x maybe, sure there would be shitty lines skied and shitty tricks thrown but this is where the sport needs to go. Guy would adapt over time, just like they had to in surfing its different but it can work.
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Guerlain Chilcherit can do double backs , cork 7s and rodeos and im sure he can do lots of other shit, TJ fukin rips big mountain with a little practise he could kill it in bigmountain comps, and there could be no racing , skier x maybe, sure there would be shitty lines skied and shitty tricks thrown but this is where the sport needs to go. Guys would adapt over time, just like they had to in surfing its different but it can work.
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"sure there would be shitty lines skied and shitty tricks thrown but this is where the sport needs to go"
remember im playing the devils advocate becuase i think it would be wicked. But what you jstu said there is a bunch of shit.
and a double back is a little different than a carving switch 9 opp tail or tail blunt back side 270 off. that shit comes with practice, not hucking
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it is where the sport needs to go i think
their would be some traditionalists at first same as there was with asp first started. but once people realised what it did for the sport everyone bar few jumped on board. and u still find that people who dont ski comps get even more coverage than they did before the tour started because the sport grew so much
any surfers out there will tell u all about rasta or ry craike
they never surf comps but theyr huge names in the sport
a tour would make skiing that much better in the long run its ridiculous
aussiepimp is not going to like this but fundamentally i dont think big mountain skiing would fit in at the present point in time for skiing...there is a pretty big discrepancy.
I think that a three discipline tour would work, slope, big air, pipe....and ultimately the increased coverage in the sport would lead to enough $$$ being around to support a simlar big mountain tour. Or at least more high profile big mountain events. Much like there is with big wave surfing now.
That is my line of thinking anyway feel free to rip it to shreds if you think im way off the mark
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for some reason this thread created twice...just ignore the other one perhaps
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Big mountain must be part of the tour Big mountain is real skiing, ITs the biggest part of the sport, its the hardest disipline and if you want a well rounded tour you must have big mountain but in the same light maybe instead of big mountian you could have a back country freestyle comp thats a mix between a slopestyle comp in the bc and a big mountain comp like the Freeride event in the former World heli challenge and the back 9 invitational.
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dont worry i totally agree with you about big mountain being real skiing, with the majority of people who ski actually performing this discipline or something close to it.
i like this backcountry slopestyle/big mountain format...but not so great from a spectators perspective. everyone would need a sled to get there
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then the skier in compettion wouldent get to film cuz they are traveling for comps all the time
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the surf film industry would be at least 20 times bigger than the ski one and they have a world tour
new surf films come out monthly
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