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655,000 Iraqis dead

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asac
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"War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.

Violence including gunfire and bombs caused the majority of deaths but thousands of people died from worsening health and environmental conditions directly related to the conflict that began in 2003, U.S. and Iraqi public health researchers said."

Oh, my god. I don't even think i can say anything else.
Oct 11 2006 4:18PM
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asac
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/index.html
Oct 11 2006 4:19PM
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skicraze123
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pretty fucked up
Oct 11 2006 4:20PM
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720skiguy
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damn dude. thats a lot more than those "weapons of mass destruction" killed. what was it??? 0?
Oct 11 2006 4:26PM
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Anti-Neocon
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and the majority of republicans say they would stil vote for this war even if they knew iraq had no wmd's. how are we not terrorists for this? look at the number of all the dead from every terrorst attacks combined. i doubt its even close to 50k. but we are hereos and patriots for giving them freedom? i guess the 600k dead are acceptable for iraqi freedom. how many americans died for the us's freedom from england 10k? unfuckingbelivable
Oct 11 2006 4:27PM
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XXL_Steeze
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its just madness
Oct 11 2006 4:29PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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sup ftp still being a faggot? when we said make a new account and start over this isnt what we meant
Oct 11 2006 4:36PM
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AOTEAROA
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impeach that piece of shit right now.
Oct 11 2006 6:00PM
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KRASHED
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Bush is fucked

You voted him in so enjoy!
Oct 11 2006 6:03PM
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Star_F*cker
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bush is gay the war is gay and my brother-in-law is in iraq checking cars for his bombs because his leader was too scared to do it so he stayed back and did something else
Oct 11 2006 6:06PM
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J.D.
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Does it

"MALVEAUX: Thank you, Mr. President. Back on Iraq, a group of American and Iraqi health officials today released a report saying that 655,000 Iraqis have died since the Iraq war. That figure is 20 times the figure that you cited in December at 30,000. Do you care to amend or update your figure and do you consider this a credible report?

BUSH: No, I don’t consider it a credible report, neither does General Casey and neither do Iraqi officials. I do know that a lot of innocent people have died and it troubles me and grieves me and I applaud the Iraqis for their courage in the face of violence. I am, you know, amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they’re willing to…you know, that there’s a level of violence that they tolerate. And it's now time for the Iraqi government to work hard to bring security in neighborhoods so people can feel–you know–at peace."

What do you know, it does...

Atood:
"'I am, you know, amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they’re willing to — you know, that there’s a level of violence that they tolerate.' —Who is "tolerating" that? Bush is — from the comfort of his treadmill in the White House gym — and Cheney and Rumsfeld, maybe. But do you honestly think that any mother trying to raise a family on the streets of Baghdad tolerates it? And the evidence is overwhelming that they don't tolerate it one bit. Why do you think that a whopping 71 percent of Iraqis want America to leave in the next year?"
Oct 11 2006 6:13PM
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Jwenz
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I think we shouuld just fucking blow their brains out...they fight with eachother...just get rid of them...they cause mothing by mother fucking problesm


now you know my point of view

i like wendys
Oct 11 2006 6:32PM
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skisebski
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CNN is pure garbage.
Oct 11 2006 6:41PM
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J.D.
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CNN is reporting on it. They didn't just make up the figure, genius. I'm sure you'd rather news organizations just not tell you things that upset you so that you can live in blissful ignorance, but hey, some people differ.
Oct 11 2006 6:43PM
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brennanmidwest
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wow that number is mindblowing
Oct 11 2006 6:46PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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ya dude bush should have checked each car himself like all the leaders in every other war ever....and ya it was definetly all his decision to go theres no such thing as congress or anything like that
Oct 11 2006 7:13PM
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Anti-Neocon
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he was talking about bush and the national guard during vietnam. the president has to take full responsiblilty because hes the fucking president! how are terrorists worse then us when we have killed 1000x the amount they have all over the world? tell me how is 911 worse then 600 thousand dead iraqis?
Oct 11 2006 7:41PM
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S-Titterington
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i say bushes daughters should go to war.
Oct 11 2006 8:07PM
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skisebski
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you poor misguided thing, your making the assumption that my opinion is directly tied to this thread. its just a broad general statement concerning the overall quality of cnn. dont be so quick to judge...you know better than that...
Oct 11 2006 8:25PM
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*DrewT*
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It's simply awful. There's no reason to be at war, anybody who doesn't think the war should end is a horrible person. Not trying to label but seriously how could you possibly want it to go on?
Oct 11 2006 8:52PM
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Age
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GO TEAM AMERICA!!!
WOOOOOO!!!


Im so glad I live in Australia.
Oct 11 2006 9:11PM
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*DrewT*
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I live in Canada and now we're at war thanks to the conservative government.
Oct 11 2006 9:17PM
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720laxskier
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America-fuck yeah
Oct 11 2006 9:26PM
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skiierman
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Doesn't suprise me one bit. The number has always been played down since the first push into Iraq.
Oct 11 2006 9:42PM
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mind_Riot39
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you know they could say the same about us because (in theory) we have killed 655,000 of them in less than 4 years. the world doesn't work with opinions like that. u can't just say "oh well fuck it we should just kill them instead of trying to solve the problem"
Oct 11 2006 10:06PM
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freestyler540
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The American people should stand up for peace.

The pro-war people should get out of their job and join the army to die in Iraq. Everyone that denies all of the thing are way beyond stupid. They hear what they want to hear and say nothing but the bits of false information and claim it is correct. Bush is the perfect example. Even Harper is guilty.

655,000 people...that is 600x the population in my town, Owen Sound.

Oct 11 2006 11:10PM
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C-Burg
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hahahahahahaha, so true
Oct 11 2006 11:12PM
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Lord_Piot
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its a big number


but what the hell did you expect. The problem with CNN is, it desensitizes everyone to war. Not the images but the concept.

Even though it doesnt show the horrors of war. it still implies through 24/7 newscasting that war is the norm


why do you think hitler banned "gone with the wind" in nazi germany. He didnt want the population to be aware of the horrors of war until they were in the middle of it.
Oct 11 2006 11:32PM
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whattheshit
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we were already in afghanistan before the conservative government.
Oct 11 2006 11:36PM
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d.spong
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and new orleans still isnt rebuilt
Oct 11 2006 11:59PM
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Pipe_Munky
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this is true!

people can say whatever they want. yes it's a terrible thing that all these people have died iraqi, afghani, british, american and canadian. did you people think there would be no casualties? people join the military of their respective countries to be prepared to defend their country and provide assistance when needed in foreign countries.

so bush went into afghanistan, why? because that coutry's regime at the time was allowing the terrorists that were responsible for the 9/11 attacks on the world trade center. bush went into iraq, why? ok that one's a little hazy. some say there were WMD there but ultimately that could not be confirmed. in my opinion, saddam had it coming! he kept pushing and pushing and wasn't going to stop. george bush sr. couldn't get the job done, bill clinton couldn't get it done so dubya finished it. let's remember iraq was not some innocent country in all this. go back to march 16, 1988 when saddam killed over 5,000 people using chemical agents and continued the persecution of kurdish people for years.

for all of you anti-bush/anti-war assholes, remember this, the mission of islamic terrorists is to destroy the western way of life. so if you enjoy the way you live and want to keep it that i way, i would recomend shutting the fuck up!!


Oct 12 2006 12:00AM
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MitchPee
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It's too bad you couldn't have been one of them. I would MUCH rather have any one of them live than your pathetic excuse for a life.
Oct 12 2006 12:01AM
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Anti-Neocon
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why mitch? i thought we were buddies? what did i ever do to you?
Oct 12 2006 1:49AM
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Campeador
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As far as that figure and Bush's 30,000 figure I'd day Bush was stating the statistic for Iraqi casualties directly caused by American troops and bombs since the invasion.

The 655,000 figure, which I doubt is even accurate, is related to the whole spectrum of death. It is not our fault that the fools continue to blow eachother to bits like they have always done over their petty differences. We are trying to do everything in our power to help them. I disagree with the war but only because I don't think the Iraqis even deserve to have the United States provide them any help whatsoever. The fools are spineless, they blow up women with hidden car bombs and hack off heads on video with masks on.

George Bush is absolutely right, they DO tolerate brutal violence, oppression, and genocide. If they did not tolerate it, we would have never had to invade to begin with. The Iraqis and Muslims in general need to get their fucking act together and stop fucking around. All the major acts of violence in the world in our time are being caused directly by the Muslims, whether its in New York, London, Madrid, Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Darfur, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Indonesia. They are incapable of living in harmony with any other group besides their own and even within their own group they can't stop blowing eachother up because of minor idealogical differences.

Its a culture that must be destroyed.
Oct 12 2006 2:16AM
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prophet
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NEAT.
i say:
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i mean why the fuck not.

its not like there are 650,000 little iraqi babies, and even if thats an overall death toll for the country... i really dont think you can fully extract the actual causes either way... and theres definitely an influence. i just dont support fighting fire with napalm... cause were past fire.
Oct 12 2006 3:07AM
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futurespin
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Bush is only at 1/10th the number of people that Hitler Killed.





Nevermind Hitler killed a lot more people in the actual war.
Oct 12 2006 4:12AM
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whattheshit
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are you fucking joking me?

bush didn't create a systematic network to kill people. hitler did.


god you kids piss me off, you all regurgitate the shit you see on tv and what your parents say. think for yourselves. read two newspapers. people just hate because its fucking trendy, you're all lame. kill yourselves.
Oct 12 2006 4:16AM
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MitchPee
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Wow, just wow. Please, go read what happened in Serbia, it's apparent you don't know. There's a huge difference between genocide, and a bad military operation.
Oct 12 2006 8:36AM
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Mod
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$5 Anti-Neocon is FTP's alias, and anyway, Bush released a speech claiming that those fact's are wrong.
Oct 12 2006 9:31AM
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srwinnsuco
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i think you dumb mother fuckers should read the actual report before you go spewing bullshit about anti war assholes and what not. These are real people that died, even if they are iraqis so be it, people are people, and people dieing because of Americas unjustified war is wrong. there is no reason to justify it and if you try you're lieing to yourself. Killing innocent people that never did anything to our country is fucked up! face it people. if you think it isnt fucked up then your values are seriously fucked up and you should take a look in the mirror. The figure might not be perfect but its a fucking reality check. 650,000 or 200,000 its still too many people that have died at the hands of our government. Its our government and our army which is fueling the conflict; which means that all these deaths are on the hands of the american people because none of use have done anything to stop the senseless killing. Stop being so fucking ignorant.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/lancet101106.pdf

Oct 12 2006 11:20AM
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=Worf=
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all i can say is good, fuckem more bombs. where's the napalsm, i dont care if there is no jungle napalsm anyway. next stop N. Korea

"you had me at dicks fuck pussies"
Oct 12 2006 12:35PM
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japie99
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People People!!! First of all you need to realise something!!!!!

First of all im not american or pro bush let that be clear, aight? And second of all I feel really really really sorry for these ppl. It is unjistified that they died and the ppl who will be killed in the coming period. War is bad its horrible my stomach turns around when I see the images and tapes.

Buttt....

Everybody her is telling eachother that Bush is an murderer coz he killed 650k people!! Wake up!!

You mess up 2 things!
Oct 12 2006 1:09PM
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japie99
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People People!!! First of all you need to realise something!!!!!

First of all im not american or pro bush let that be clear, aight? And second of all I feel really really really sorry for these ppl. It is unjistified that they died and the ppl who will be killed in the coming period. War is bad its horrible my stomach turns around when I see the images and tapes.

Buttt....

Everybody her is telling eachother that Bush is an murderer coz he killed 650k people!! Wake up!!

You mess up 2 things!
-1st The ppl who are killed buy the americans. The american army didnt kill all these 650k like not even close!! (I dont know the numbers so plz tell me)

-2nd Most of these ppl are killed by terrorist. Bomb cars, suicide actions, name it!

The terrorist thats our enemy!!! Thats how they fight by killing innocent ppl!

Now you can say they: ''yeah but if there would be no american army there would be no suicide actions'' Well so we should just lean back and see how a horrible dictator ruins his beautifull country and kills and surpesses his ppl (like the koerds (not sure if thats the name for them in english)??? IS that what we want?? There has always been a fight with suicide actions in Iraq!

Ofcourse now adays there are so many more but still it wasnt that afe there either.

Terrorists fight like pussies to kill the natives, they do that so ppl get mad on the us and rest of the world that they let that happen. They are true in some way. But I can tell you its freakin hard to protect ppl for that kind of terror!
This is for all the bush haters --> Yeah ur president did fok up, that stupid man nows nothin about war nd so doesnt his army --> all to ignorant and arrogant, just STUPID.

WHO THE HELL WANTS TO INVADE A COUNTRY, DESSERT WITH MOUNTAINS CAVES AND MOST IMPORTAN CITIES SOO CROWDED AND LOOKS LIKE A FREAKIN MAZE. Everybody could no that there would come a freakin war on the streets. Thats were the terrorist are safe!!

But no I will make an end bout all this. All the bush hater should think before they talk coz most of them are killed by the terorist --> the enemy!!
And yeah this isnt the way to ban terror not the way at all. But sayin bush is a 2nd Hitler that goes way way way to far!

Now Im gonna chill eat drink watch some sick ski movies!! And let all you bitches discuss further!! So leavin this freakin thread,

PEACE!!!
Oct 12 2006 1:24PM
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C-Burg
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A majority of that number is militants that we are targeting, there is some colateral damage but all 655,000 people are innocent civilians
Oct 12 2006 4:10PM
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skiatgore69
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my global teacher told me today that the new estimate is roughly 100,000.
Oct 12 2006 4:25PM
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prophet
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exageration is fun
Oct 12 2006 9:01PM
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FUUUCK
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i think theyre inflating those numbers
Oct 12 2006 9:43PM
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will987654321
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Yes it is.
Oct 12 2006 10:09PM
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whattheshit
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no its not.
Oct 12 2006 10:30PM
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snowdiver
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holy shit
Oct 12 2006 10:46PM
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Campeador
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No you idiot, Islam has been fueling this conflict since 9/11 and even before. I wish we could have had no part with the sandniggers but we were forced to take action against them.
Oct 13 2006 2:26AM
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