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916 or PX 12 jibs?

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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
I can get em both for 150. which is better and why? thanks
Aug 18 2006 4:52PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
salomon 916s that is
Aug 18 2006 4:58PM
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bigpurplebev
Posts: 335 - Karma: 38
$150, you sure their not 912s cuz thats really cheap, if they are really 916s go with them if you weigh enough cuz the din starts at a 9
Aug 18 2006 5:15PM
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Ryanvdonk
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916 is definitely a better binding, but you may not be able to ski it, what are your height, weight, and ability?
Aug 18 2006 5:16PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
im 6'1 160lbs and i ski a lot of park.
Aug 18 2006 5:30PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
ive got connections. they are 916s
Aug 18 2006 5:30PM
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lyndon
Posts: 7266 - Karma: 128
get the 916
Aug 18 2006 5:32PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
specific reason?
Aug 18 2006 5:35PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
You don't need 916's for park. The only reason you should use race bindings in the park is if you're super lame and you have to prove how cool you are. Get the p12's, you should be happy with those.
Aug 18 2006 5:48PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
well are the 916s a better binding? cause they'ere the same price
Aug 18 2006 5:51PM
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wrenegade
Posts: 6631 - Karma: 41
The 916 is a much more durable binding, its solid steel. Usually, that much weight isn't a good thing for park, but you may be different. If you go huge and repeatedly take massive hits, then maybe you need them. Also, the DIN starts at 9, so you better like having yours set at 12-13. Better binding? That is up for debate, its the same technology salomon had 15 years ago.

Of course, you could just buy both pairs, sell me the 916s for say $200, and you'd have the px12s for $100.
Aug 18 2006 6:17PM
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lyndon
Posts: 7266 - Karma: 128
thats why
Aug 18 2006 6:36PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
ah this is such a hard decision
Aug 18 2006 6:40PM
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iggyskier
Posts: 10447 - Karma: 10,018
s916 is the better binding, as long as you are heavy enough/ski hard enough to use it.

PX 12, IMO, suck compared to the older pivots, specifically the P18/FKS, and s916s.

I would go s916s.
Aug 18 2006 6:50PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
i like my p12 jibs and and not sure if i will like the px12 jibs. im leaning towards 916s cause i think theyll be more durable
Aug 18 2006 7:00PM
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qazplm341
Posts: 196 - Karma: 10
but your knee might be mad at you in a couple of months
Aug 18 2006 7:24PM
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AKFREERIDE
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no there not silly. hes 160lbs and skiing park. he can have a din at 9. might not be the best fit, but if hes coming close to anything thatll mess his knee up, a 9 will get him out.

seems like overkill for a park ski to me personally, that a px12 would be a much better binding for what your going to be doing.

now on the other hand, which is a better deal. well thats simple. the s916. one of the best bindings out there, solid as a rock. px12s you can find anywhere, s916s are harder to come by.

so you have which is a better deal and which is more suitable. you choose.
Aug 18 2006 8:48PM
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Justo8484
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you're 6'1, 160lbs, and what size shoe do you wear? if you're over a size 10, i wouldnt wanna rock the 916's. i'm 6', 165, with a 9.5, and going by a DIN chart, my DIN should be an 8. If your feet are bigger than a 10, your suggested DIN is going to go down, because a bigger boot puts more torque on your knee. for the 916's to really release accurately, you dont wanna ride them at 9, which would still be too high for you. get the jibs, ride them at whatever your shop sets them at, maybe 1 higher, and you'll be fine. dont risk ruining your season getting a pair of bindings just because no one else can get them.
Aug 18 2006 11:51PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
Whoa man, I'm only 140lbs and the same height as you and according to the DIN chart I should ride my bindings at 4 or 5. I can easily kick out of a pair of px12's at 8. You want your bindings set just high enough that if you're landing properly they don't come off, the only time they should come off is crashing. I ride my bindings at 8 or 9.
Aug 19 2006 12:00AM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
here is the thing. most people here say i don't need 916s but pete olenick told me to get them. im trying to weigh his decision into it
Aug 19 2006 12:24AM
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DHogg
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if your putting them on your big mtn/pow skis i can see the justification of getting the 916. but for park skis its definately overkill. The din might start a bit high as the 916 dont release easily like some bindings. if i was you i'd ski the 916 at 9 max in the park.

Just get the PX12. perfect park binding for you
Aug 19 2006 1:29AM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
i had my 912s at 8-9 and they popped off a lot so i might want it around 9-10
Aug 19 2006 2:22AM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
does anyone know the weight of either 916s or px12 jibs?
Aug 19 2006 3:18AM
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skisquaw@420
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they s916s are alittle heavier because they are a race binding but they are the only good binding being made right now period
Aug 19 2006 12:46PM
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Armadaguy
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comparing the 916 and the px12 is not even fair, the px 12 is a mid level consumer binding, where as the 916 is a race binding, sometihng in the middle of the two would be either a 914 or px14. from what i understand the px series suck, and if u can get 916s, u can certainly get 914s so that is what i would recommend
Aug 19 2006 5:35PM
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SkiingNinja
Posts: 1966 - Karma: 902
i think ill get the 916s unless anyone can change my mind last second
Aug 19 2006 6:13PM
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skisquaw@420
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u are absolutoly right in deciding to get the s916, plus u cant beat that price, i got mine for 200ish and will cherish them forever
Aug 19 2006 6:40PM
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eheath
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Sam you're an idiot. Race stock bindings are the shit. I busted up so many salomon bindings and rossi scratch bindings, always breaking of breaks, and just fucking them up. My fks155 stayed super solid and are the best binding ive ever owned in my life, they are awesome for park, they actually stay on your feet alot and dont explode like salomon and rossi scratch bindings.
Aug 19 2006 6:55PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
I'm not knocking race stock bindings, I have a set of FKS 155's for my chargin' boards. I was just saying that they are completely unnecessary for 99% of people to use in the park. But if you can get a good deal on them by all means go for it.
Aug 19 2006 7:25PM
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boxskier
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16 versus a 12 din
Aug 20 2006 9:54AM
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skimasterflex
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I believe you are forgetting to move down the required skier codes for skier type, as the chart is based on a type one skier. If you are type III go down 2 lines from where you chart out for height/weight and bootsole length, if you think you are III+ then go down 3 lines. I believe you will realize how much better the DIN chart is than you now think. I chart out at 10.5 or 11 depending on the chart, 6' 200lbs 305mm boot sole, III+. 10.5 is good enough for me on a Look but I like 11-12 on a Salomon.
Aug 20 2006 5:26PM
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Justo8484
Posts: 3905 - Karma: 205
this man knows what he's talking about. you dont have to ride looks higher than recommended on the DIN chart. older salomons, particularly the ones with the spheric toe where you can adjust toe and wings, everyone seems to ride at a higher DIN than recommended because the toe wings loosen. if you have the wings adjusted properly, the bindings release on point, as well as any other. stupid kids crank their din to 12, turn right out of them, and claim that they are super hardcore aggressive and need race stock bindings, when if they took a minute, found out what was actually happening, and talked to a tech about how to fix the problem, they would be riding their bindings right where they should be. i've seen people's knees get messed up for exactly that reason. there are so very few cases where someone really needs to be riding a 16 DIN binding in the park, and someone who weighs 140lbs is certainly not one of them, unless you have something stupid like a size 5 boot and can put that much torque on the toe to justify it. good luck finding a shop that will mount and check them when your recommended DIN doesnt even fall close to what the binding can be set at.
Aug 20 2006 10:12PM
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cofreeskier
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get the looks-theyre a much better binding if you ski a lot of park
Aug 20 2006 10:20PM
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poofartpee
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916 there full metal so day wont brake
Aug 20 2006 10:31PM
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