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religion assuption

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rsd
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I think that nowadays in america people make the assumption that everyone believes in god. I believe in god, but i just think that there is too much of the assumption that everyone does.
Do u agree?
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Apr 16 2003 2:26PM
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Lateralis
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i think some religions is just stupid,like you cant celebrate christmas and recieve presents,thats just stupid



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Apr 16 2003 2:30PM
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rsd
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isnt that jehovas witnesses?

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'who wants to put the screws in?'
'i do!'
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Apr 16 2003 2:31PM
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Lateralis
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something like that,a friend of mine is jehova,he cant go out with friends or nothing,i called him one time to go skating and he coudltn go out,i see him sometimes on friday nights walkin with his parents and renting a movie,it must suck man



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Apr 16 2003 2:34PM
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rsd
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my neigbors are jehova witnesses and they go back and forth too their church 3-4 times a day
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'who wants to put the screws in?'
'i do!'
'no i do, my dad is a mechanic so i bet i am a lot better at stripping and screwing then you are!!!
Apr 16 2003 2:35PM
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Lateralis
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another one of my friends was presbyterian,he was a big stoner and a huge trouble maker while the rest of his family were all goody goody and stuff,after a hockey game he asked me to go eat there for supper and i was shocked when they all started to say grace and stuff,i had never done that before,i was scared



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Apr 16 2003 2:38PM
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petek
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I am agnostic, but leaning on a brand new religion.


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Apr 16 2003 5:57PM
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petek
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and yeah it sucks. I would call it poetic justice, that the religion used by many slaves in the roman empire, would then become one of the more dominant religions on the planet.


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Apr 16 2003 5:59PM
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Lateralis
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if everyone was the same religion,hate crimes we decrease soo much but that wont happen since we all have different beliefs and live by them day after day



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Apr 16 2003 6:05PM
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rsd
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what religion r u talking about petek?
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'who wants to put the screws in?'
'i do!'
'no i do, my dad is a mechanic so i bet i am a lot better at stripping and screwing then you are!!!
Apr 16 2003 8:58PM
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rsd
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oh, christianity? my bad
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'who wants to put the screws in?'
'i do!'
'no i do, my dad is a mechanic so i bet i am a lot better at stripping and screwing then you are!!!
Apr 16 2003 8:59PM
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AppSkier
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in russia they used to have the same religion, its called communism.


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Apr 16 2003 9:01PM
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MistaSkier
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jehovah's witnesses arent even allowed to know what sex is till theyre like 30.


Would you like freedom fries with that?




Apr 16 2003 10:41PM
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Lateralis
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why are jehovas witnesses women so flat???


GET OFF MY PORCH!! and you push them,



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Apr 16 2003 10:42PM
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Ds91260
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casue they have to get em removed man
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Apr 16 2003 10:47PM
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Lateralis
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no no no and no!



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Apr 16 2003 10:49PM
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petek
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ok, you know how because of massive advances in technology, we are ascending to the role of gods, this new religion doesnt praise the future us, it acknowledges it, and strives to be more like it.


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Apr 16 2003 11:08PM
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alpentalik
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if you are so religious then you shouldn't be here, it would be going against the teachings of christ to a) put money into something such as skiing (or a computer) b) waste your time doing anything else besides raping peoples minds spreading your bullshit.



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Apr 16 2003 11:14PM
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petek
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if that was serious alpentalik, then my opinion of you got a fuckload higher


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Apr 16 2003 11:18PM
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SaraJ
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Hey I'm religious, and I'm cool with it. But what bothers me is when ppl are like so religious that they just make it look retarded so ppl laugh at it making it easy to stereotype the ppl in that religion, which really sucks.

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Apr 16 2003 11:39PM
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Lateralis
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ive never been religious,some people believe that being super religious makes you live longer and can save you from what would of been death



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Apr 16 2003 11:41PM
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mikee
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I'mnot religious and I dont even think religion is something that it is made out to be. Religion and science are the same thing. If god does exist, he is an Extra Terestrrial, If heavan and hell exist they are dimensions. Etc. Its all perspective.
Apr 16 2003 11:41PM
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Papa
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i dunno about religion, i mean it's always good to believe in something or goals or morals, but according to the bible the earth is only 5000 years old. So if evolution is right the early humans, not being able to explain many events just said ohh it was the spirits and eventually these spirits formed into one god and all the other religions, and then off the main religions like catholic you get like 10 other religions. all the christian religions are just break offs of catholic, so that means that that even the catholic church is right that the others are hopelessly lost
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Apr 16 2003 11:45PM
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mikee
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Um, well all the religions are breakoffs from The Torah or !st Testament, so I guess Judaism, Islamic and Christian people all have the same religion.
Apr 16 2003 11:46PM
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Lateralis
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rastafarianism,now thats a religion we should all live by



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Apr 16 2003 11:47PM
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Papa
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kinda, but that's the problem with the middle east, you have like 4 major religions wich are the base of all other religions based in one area with basically the same history
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Apr 16 2003 11:47PM
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SaraJ
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Except there are some different beliefs between each religion.

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Apr 16 2003 11:47PM
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Papa
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that's cause people change stuff, i mean the bible is not all right. if people don't like what they hear they change it. So don't think the bible is everything it's supposed to be. It's human nature, over 3000 years some stuff is gonna be missed or just changed
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Apr 16 2003 11:49PM
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mikee
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AS there are different beliefs beetween Catholics and Prostastants etc. Also, Ifthere are like 1000 different religions in the world, how can they all be right? you are almost (and this is kind of stupid to say, since some are more well-established and therefore likely to be correct) taking a 1 in 1000 chance that you are correct, at the very most.
Apr 16 2003 11:50PM
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SaraJ
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They've already changed it, but that doesn't change the whole idea of it. I also don't think it ever says anything about the earth being only 5000 years old. They talk about stuff happening in like 1 day, but like 1 day could be equal to a hundred years. Not neccisarily what we call one day or even 5000 years.

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Apr 16 2003 11:52PM
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mikee
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Yeha but still. WHy do you belive it? WHat gives you any security that its true?
Apr 16 2003 11:55PM
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SaraJ
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The fact that there has been almost nothing that cannot be proven incorrect so far. They are constantly finding things that can only be proving that the words in the bible are correct, rather than incorrect. Besides, do you have any evidence supporting that it's not true?

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Apr 16 2003 11:58PM
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mikee
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No, but theres jujst as much of a chance taht aliens have vistied eartth as it and that belief is generally made fun of. Also, there is no proof that anything it says about higher powers are true? or are there?I might just be misinformed...
Apr 17 2003 12:00AM
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SaraJ
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Nope, no proof on that. But that doesn't stop my believing. That's why it's pretty much called a faith. You have to have faith that its true, and so on. As far as aliens go...aliens can die.

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Apr 17 2003 12:02AM
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mikee
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haha, i guess your right. It just seems odd to me. I personally think its quite probable we have been visited before. I wouldnt be surprised...
Apr 17 2003 12:04AM
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SaraJ
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I wouldn't be surprised either.. The people why call crazy for believing that kinda stuff might be onto something. Doesn't mean that aliens are godly or anything, just cuz they aren't from earth. Imagine, they could think the same about us. That would be odd now wouldn't it.

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Apr 17 2003 12:06AM
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mikee
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Yeah, this guy drake did a calculation (i believe its called the DRAKE theorem) that states that in one galaxy theree would be 4000 intelligent civilisations and that a civilisation such as this could conquer a galaxy within the time of 65 i believe million years using ships to take over planet by planet. Pretty complicated calculations that I cnat remember but it seems likely that in our 15 billion years of having a Universe this wouldve happened?
Apr 17 2003 12:08AM
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SaraJ
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That's kinda scary to think about. We get worried about global issues. To think that people might have to start worrying about galaxy issues or something would just be crazy.

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Apr 17 2003 12:11AM
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mikee
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Yeah, or this could be the solution to everything. It would either start trade with them and unite earth or they would help us unite earth or to fight them off we would have to unite. However, your point is very true, theres so much more to think about than what you see at first.
Apr 17 2003 12:13AM
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Papa
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either way, if it's true or not. i just don't like the idea of basing my entire life and beliefs on one thing that i havn't seen or felt, i feel that rather than searching for something or always looking to a higher meaning why not just live how you want, i mean with that comes your morals and stuff but why be in an organized religion, just live as a good person
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Apr 17 2003 12:20AM
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mikee
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Yeah, tahts how i feel papa.
Apr 17 2003 12:22AM
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rsd
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and remember, what we see today in the bible and torah are translations of what has been said in the past. Perhaps all of the translations we see in the bible are incorrect because perhaps it was written incorrect. And what is written in the bible is also what might be our best explanation through the translations given.
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'who wants to put the screws in?'
'i do!'
'no i do, my dad is a mechanic so i bet i am a lot better at stripping and screwing then you are!!!
Apr 17 2003 12:28AM
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mikee
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But we weould still be believing what it tells us so it would be quite bad.
Apr 17 2003 12:35AM
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canonrider
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I look at the bible like its a fairy tale. Its full of stories, that are so far from anything that is close to reality that i have ever read, and when people take it seriously and base there lives around it it bugs me out. I beleive that as soo as we are born we begin to die. Heaven? are you kidding me? amoung the clouds and all that? science has come so far, and proven religon SO wrong. But people still go to church everyday all over the world chanting and singing like a cult.....

Sure there are good morals, involved, but why base your life on somthing that is such a fable. If you look at everything christian, its all based on money. Think about it, Alpentalik nailed in on the head when he said propoganda bullshit..... it sickens me

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Apr 17 2003 11:43AM
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Papa
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ya true that, basically most religous people have been in that religion so long that they believe it cause basically they have been brain washed, there whole life is one thing so of course they are gonna live it and defend it, i went to church ever sunday up unitl a year ago when i did thinking and realised that it was pointless
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Apr 17 2003 5:44PM
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SaraJ
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I go because it's a good environment to be in plus the highschool service they have is really fun. But ya, I guess it's all on opinion. It's rediculous to have people who are so crazed for the religion because again, it makes it easy to stereotype. What really pisses me off are people who make fun of the people who do believe in their religions. It's their own opinions i guess, but it's especially bad to have friends doing it too.

I don't really see how it's a 'brainwashed society' or whatever you called it though. I guess I've heard horror stories told from some Christian camps that friends went to. They said that they were trying to get them to 'wash their hands for God' and crazy stuff like that. I can see that as brainwash, but not all people are like that. The church I go to is pretty relaxed about stuff and you don't have to like dress up for church services and stuff unless you really want to. I guess it's more of a community where you can express your own feelings and get help and comfort with them by talking to people especially with small things like home problems or problems in school. Don't go on saying you could get a psych for that...It gives a little bit more. Like a sense of comfort and wanting to be a better person because it makes you feel like you have something more to live for. Like a better future ahead. I don't really know how to explain it though.

Maybe it's not for everybody, and that's something I can understand. I know that I have my doubts about it, thing that I can't explain, but it all end up making me happier once I do come back to it.

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Apr 17 2003 9:25PM
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Trunks
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Amazing to see people talk so much about something they know so little about...
Apr 17 2003 11:44PM
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Caden
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i like the gospels... i get more out of the well-written metaphorical stories that aren't suppose to be literal out of the bible. there is always a message.. i've given up standing, kneeling and listening to other parts of mass such as homily etc.... i find the rest is propaganda... one of those weeks the priest was droning on about how the church is the light and everyone should go to the catholic church because it's the 'right' way... and then they had collection...


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Apr 18 2003 12:18AM
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hUcKbUnNi3
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wow this is so wierd for me to read. Some people may stereotype me as 'religious', but I think that being 'religious' is not the same thing as being a Christian. Religion is a 'ritual observance of faith' thats from the actual dictionary. Being a Christian means that a)you believe that Jesus is the risen Lord and Savior b)he was born from a virgin and c)there IS a trinity...I think those are the main beliefs in Christianity. But to be religious..thats a whole different thing. Religion is where you or a whole group of people do the same things at the same time..u go to church, u pray b-4 every meal, u lift your hands when your singin the songs, etc. But I believe when your a Christian, all you have to do is believe thos essential things, and your fine. It's up to you the extent you want to go for 'religions' sake...theres my 10cents
Apr 18 2003 3:04AM
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Papa
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ya but you just defined christianity with what you said a religion is, if you all believe those things then that is a religion
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Apr 18 2003 3:08AM
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SaraJ
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Ya, but what she's saying is that you dun have to like kneel or confess or whatever. In some branches off of christianity (catholic, lutheran, etc) you have to do similar things like that.

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