The War

You know how many people your government has tortured and killed? Look at the fucking CIA the largest and most dangerous terrorist network in the world. You bastards have put men far worse than Saddam in power, get a fucking education before your going to talk about morality

Woah guys I agree with the juumper on this one. And plus no one has concrete facts so its all a matter of opinion, calm down.

that is our business...fuck them, we can do what is good for our country. if we are powerful enough to do so, than we should. its as simple as that.

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actually he's right, i think your country did put saddam in power
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oh and by the way...who gives a flying fuck about morality?

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Yeah , I saw that story about that 11 yr old kid.There were pictures of him ,arms blown off at the shoulders and covered in burns.He was crying.His mom, dad, sisters,and brother were all killed when a bomb hit there home.11 yrs old,whole family killed,no home, he's got no arms +other serious injuries, and he's all alone.That fucking sucks...If any of you were ever in a serious accident w/ ambulances and hospitals when you were little,I bet all you wanted was your mom to come and make it better,I know I did.Well that 11yr old kid w/ no arms has no mom to help him,he has nothing cuz the US killed his whole family.This fucking sucks.It makes me sad.I feel for that kid.

i dont give a fuck about him, if we didnt go in and stop vx and sarin from being used on americans...america protects america, your all turning back to wilson and the mexico fiasco proved him wrong there
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ECFS-your brainwashed-programmed.........america protects america? Iraq has done nothing to america since the last gulf war.Have you or anyone you know been threatened by Iraq and if so ,how?

so what, we should wait for shit to happen to us before we remove a dictator who deserves to die anyway...he kills far more civilians a year than we have in the war.
Bombing for Peace is like jacking off so you don't rape someone later.

ok the people in US are nice but US politics and like the laws over there are fucked up.
US a free country ehhh no wouldnt think so...





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um then you are contradicting yourself, you say that morality isnt the issue, but then say that he deserves to die because hes doing worse to his people. Hmmm, morality isnt the issue eh?

so your saying that it is morally right to let saddam gas, maim, and torture his people...but if we kill a single civilian while getting rid of him its suddenly bad?
Bombing for Peace is like jacking off so you don't rape someone later.

normally i'm all for the war, buttt... what is it that dude up there saying america needs to stop saddam before he did do something? what you think he could possibly do for america. it isn't america's job to secure the world. while i'm glad for them doin it and so on, and im 99% for the war, there is no way in hell saddam could reach america anyways.. the most they could do is randomly bomb isreal, but isreal can handle themselves... besides if they waged a war on isreal first, the UN(which america made obsolete) would have given full support.



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he could very easily send a few trained guys to ny with sarin or vx. our borders arent that well protected
Bombing for Peace is like jacking off so you don't rape someone later.

Man, war is fucking hell, i visited kosovo once, and i will never forget it, even now there is still constant gunfire, burnt out tanks, and bodies that will rot, until all this hatred fucking ends.


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im for the war but the US broke the rules when not letting the UN check the shit out, but bush is fucked thought and he problaby will attac north korea.





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iraq had been stonewalling the UN for years and they hadn't taken ANY action

trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

hey mogulman, i'm guessing you haven't seen the pictures of things that Sadamm does to his people.

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Papa, the US had nothing to do with putting Sadaam in power. He rose to power through the Baath party who overthrew the British puppet monarchy, then he consolidated power through his position as the head of the secret police and right hand man of the president (his uncle's cousin), eventually forcing him to resign, and killing everyone who opposed him including the former president.

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Quite frankly I don't really care what happens in the war. Either Saddam goes, which is good. Or the war doesn't happen, which is also good. Since it's too late for the latter, make lemonade eh?

What the war really comes down to for me is the fact that the US is pretty much declaring it has the right to do whatever the fuck it wants. Not that they haven't been bullying around the rest of the world since the end of the cold war, now it's just official. Quite frankly, since the start of the war, I've reformulated my position a fair bit and am now of the opinion that George Bush is an extremely clever mother fucker. The invasion of Iraq doesn't bother me in particular, it's the motivation behind it that does. Though Bush trumpets that it's his a part of his 'war on terrorism' we all know it's not true and his ulterior motives are anyones guess. I don't think anyone can have a truly informed opinion without understanding those intentions, otherwise it's just shadow boxing. Unfortunately there is no mind reading in world politics and that's why everything has gotten so ugly recently. There's a whole lot more going on here then your average Joe assumes. It's not just removing a dictator, it's redefining the balance of world political power. But that's only one biased perspective. Personally I think Saddam had got to go, but that Bush has a whole lot of explaining to do before he can flaunt world law and the UN and do as he pleases. His case for invasion is shaky at best and would never hold in a court of law.

And that's part of what it really boils down to. The US frequently ignores international law to advance it's own ends (all the while playing the victim might I add). The number of times the US has lost cases before World Trade Organization is staggering and the US's vetoing of the Kyoto accord and the International Crimes Court is a utter slap in the face. The US has consistenly shown that it has no interest in a level playing field with other nations. The US insists that among nations of the world, that's it's interests are foremost and that their interests supercede those of the rest of the world. Some may call this merely asserting one's own power. But the United States heralds the ideaology that 'All men are born equal' and if you consider things on a larger scale and entire nations to be men, the scales are tipped in the US's favor. Perhaps it's like George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' where some animals are just 'more equal then others' and thus such balancing is justified. Look what happened to that farm and tell me things do not look frighteningly similar.

The opposition to the war on Iraq is not an opposition to the war itself, but an opposition to the overwhelming power of the United States. Within the confines of the United Nations, the world attempted to create a fair playing field where WORLD interests would be prioritized and dealt with accordingly. In rejecting the UN, the US has trivialized the playing field and ridiculed those still trying to play the game. The United Nations was created in the hopes that the world could cooperate harmoniously together as one united nation. The idea was that international disputes could be settled peacefully by the exchange of ideas in an open forum until a fitting solution could be found (thesis/antithesis-->synthesis). The United Nations was to serve as a world mediator. Obviously the US doesn't care much for that idea. By unilaterally declaring war on Iraq, the US has announced that they believe their own wisdom to be greater then that of the combined intellect of the world. And THAT is arrogance.

this war didnt increase the threat from terrorist instead it got higher





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its 'all men are created equal' ... and when the US was formed, to follow your analogy, it was one of the weakest countries on earth...britain and france were much larger

trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

Think your protecting Americans? You know how many pissed of muslims there are now? Eventually what goes around comes around, eventually you'll see whats up

The MUSLIMS are pissed primarily due to our support of the israelis against the palestinians...it has nothing to do with saddam. saudi arabia, iran, jordan, turkey, and egypt all disliked saddam because they thought he was ambitious enough to try to take all of the middle east...he fought for 8 years with the iranians...the muslims have no reason to dislike us more now. this was not a religious war...it may have been for power, for oil, or for the WMD thing, but it wasnt a religious vendetta. i know a bunch of muslim people, and they love america...so dont generalize and say muslims will hate us now.

trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

see the problem in the middle east is cause you have 4 major religions based in one area
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hey thats war and we def need to be in there

Also, its more the muslim governments that are pissed off. if iraq attains democracy, that democracy will most likely spread thoroughout the middle east, ending dynastys and rulers that have ruled longer than most of us have lived.

Yea, but if the people see the benefits of democracy, they will have a greater incentive to change the government in their own countries...these leaders aren't stupid...they know that if all the people rise up against them, the US is gonna come in and they are gonna get fucked...THEY will come around.

trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

wwear war on your sleeve mr bush and don't let it rain and become blood colour like your father!
The Idiots are taking over!

there was no sense to that last post...just anti-bush bullshit

trust me, the '' things aren't actually there

i know i was just bored
but i am truly anti bush. fuck him fuck him now like go away he is a pest to humanity.
The Idiots are taking over!

not all iraqis deserve.........only like 2 percent are bad
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we should kill all non-americans and instead of calling the world the world...we would just call it america.
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lagwagon how many times do i have to tell you shut the fuck up quit just posting useless bullshit you dont even make any sense when you talk whats the point, im sick of hearing a 12 year olds view of the world grow the fuck up and see how the world raelly works you sheep fucker

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU LAGWAGON

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lagwagon is like the cancer of NS...no matter how much you try to cure it...it won't go away...haha
But I'm all for the war! I'm 100% proud to be an american! WE've been trying to get saddam to stop his bullshit for years...and it's about time we've taken action!
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lagwagon is like the cancer of NS...no matter how much you try to cure it...it won't go away...haha
But I'm all for the war! I'm 100% proud to be an american! WE've been trying to get saddam to stop his bullshit for years...and it's about time we've taken action!
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