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Drail
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fucked up eh? i figure those two missing just left when they got to land...
Mar 23 2006 4:16PM
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sharkey
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Yeah, lets hope that they are safe. I wonder if any animals went down with the boat - since they would've had to stay in the cars.
Mar 23 2006 5:11PM
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Sloth
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yah a few animals for sure.

But think of the polution. All those cars and the ship. Probally a diesel tanker or so. You never know. sitting at the bottom just waiting to currode.

Am i over reacting?
Mar 23 2006 6:56PM
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wrenegade
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Yeah the environmental aspects of it don't look good. Apparently it could be in water up to 350 metres deep, and they said it will be a while before they can begin any sort of salvage. They need to secure a bunch of submersibles because divers can't do the job. Who knows though, the ship wasn't anywhere near capacity and those Inside Passage voyages are more for tourists than for commerce, so hopefully no tanker trucks.

But its still not good, I mean there was an oil slick on the surface left from the ship itself, just hopefully everything doesn't leak out.
Mar 23 2006 8:10PM
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Download-My-Apps
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man thats crazy, the animals thing makes me sad.
Mar 23 2006 10:00PM
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ecthree_lives
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in order to show our support for all of the animals that went down with the ship, i think we should all stop eating animals.... FOREVER!
Mar 24 2006 1:13AM
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Hedekar
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Something about this does not make sense. Why would the ship hit something in the middle of a wide deep channel that it has sailed 1000's of times causing it to sink? It is 1200 feet deep with no reef in sight.
I think it is a conspiracy, and that it actually got hit by a Naval Submarine by accident, and whatever navy it is, be it Canadain, American, Chilean, whatever, is quickly covering it up. It is known that Subs practice maneuvers in those channels, and Subs have sunk ships nearby here by accident before. Sounds to me like a navy somewhere owes the BC government a couple of new boats.
That's my conspiracy theory anyways. I just can't think of anything else that would cause a ship to sink in the middle of such a large channel. confused iceberg maybe?
Mar 24 2006 1:28AM
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Hedekar
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I have been aboard the bridge of the Queen of the North while in the inside passage, and they have some pretty high tech radar, GPS, Depth Sounding equiptment among other things. I can't possibly see all systems failing in order for them to run aground. And how does a ship run aground and then sink 1200 feet out of sight anyways? It doesn't add up.
Mar 24 2006 1:33AM
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wrenegade
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I was a little confused when the ship ran aground but then sank in 350 metres of water. however, it could just be that it ran aground, getting a hole in the hull, continue sailing for a bit, then start going down. I don't know, but it seems kinda logical.
Mar 24 2006 2:23AM
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Jib_This
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From what I read, it was a pretty sunden impact and nearly immediate listing.

Now, I love a good conspiracy theory (www.abovetopsecret.com hahhahahahah) but it's probably more likely that like at all government agencies, someone fell asleep at work and fucked up, hitting some sort of reef in the process.

If it's something else, the chances of us finding out are slim to none.
Mar 24 2006 2:31AM
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Sloth
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Umm yah iwas going to add that to my first post. I just don't understand that. What were the actual reasons for its sinking? Nothings clear to me really. So i smell conspiracy or at least a huge fuck up. The captain didnt even go down with the ship, what the fuck is that. Thats fuckin pathetic.
Mar 24 2006 10:35AM
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wrenegade
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It happened at like 1 am. My money is on the crew being asleep, or tired, or drunk, or just being idiots and fucking up. They went off course hit smashed an unmarked rock and fucked themselves.
Mar 24 2006 3:08PM
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sharkey
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Apparently this was only the 2nd or 3rd run for the boat. I guess they usually use a different one (which happened to be getting fixed at the time of the accident). Who knows, maybe there'd been an earthquake and things had shifted. Either way, it's still pretty crazy. You'd think they'd have the technology to check depths.
Mar 24 2006 4:56PM
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Hedekar
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The Queen of the North has sailed that route for years. The former Capitan stated that there are no rocks or reefs even close to that area. Also, the pictures that they showed of the oil slick are all right in the middle of the channel, where it is 1200 feet deep.


OR, if you like conspiracys, isn't it a little "convienient" that the ship went down so close to a community that has radios in every home monitoring the airwaves, and minutes away by boat. A little convinient that one of the coast guard's largest cutters was a half hour away. A little convinient that the provincial government was scheduled to discuss plans for new ferries the next day. And the fact that it happened at 1am when everyone was sleeping, and those that weren't wouldn't be able to see what was going on anyways?

"went off course and ran aground" sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. Especially with todays marine navigation technology. Alseep or not.
Mar 24 2006 8:07PM
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St.Steezy
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my dad's and his marine pilot friends figure that the ship did not alter their course when the ferry was suppose to in the channel. This meant that the boat was only a few degrees off which resulted in them eventually running aground. They plotted the ships course and stuff into the computer and ran some simulations fot it.
Mar 24 2006 8:59PM
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Sloth
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Also if you read in the province they were suppose to replace that ship. It was 38 years old. But i think the debate was that there wasn't in the budget.

The crew also handled the recue to perfection. Sounds almost like they sabotaged it and went horrible wrong. (killing two people). Is it possible. A few degrees also means alot in those channels for people who can't emagine.
Mar 25 2006 7:53PM
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bigL
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i was on one of the boats cleaning up the spill, the ferry had/has 250,000 liters of fuel and oil in her, only about 50 liters has come out... $50 million to raise her or let corrosion do its work and seep for 100 years, speaking of ferrys, i wouldnt ride on one if i had to they are so old and literally falling apart if it hadnt have been retardness it would have been hull weakness...eventually, my dads friend is a welder for bc ferrys and he wont even ride them.... have fun and good luck....
Apr 6 2006 4:47PM
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