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Ok, so there's some problems with the site... how do we change it?

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Mr.Bishop
Posts: 22708 - Karma: 76,633
This is going to be a long post, and hopefully a long thread, so bear with it and try to read the entire thing.

I always hear "NS sucks now" "NS was so much better" "I'm leaving NS from all the hate" many comments like that. Each and every one of them scare the living piss out of me. You see this site is my only job. It's my livelihood, my life, and my passion. Pathetic as that may seem, I love it and wouldn't trade this job for any other in the world.

I'm glad that Ethan stickied this thread, as I feel this is an issue that we all need to band together and deal with. You see the problem with simply leaving to go ski, is that skiing only happens for MAX 10 hours a day, and then you're pretty darn tired. There's always time to check the internet, and a lot of times the internet can be pretty darn interesting.

Since this is our job, all of the admins have the time to make changes to the site, and improve it to be the perfect place for all of you to come and do your thing. We've lost Jacob, and many other members to the hate, shit-talking and general stupidity that fills the forums. If you "read between the lines" you see that there is wonderful content on the site, it is just sometimes hidden within lots of crap. Most internet forums are that way, but instead of simply accepting it, why don't we try and do something about it?

First off, our team of mods (bless them) put countless hours into cleaning up the site. Every time a thread is deleted, there is huge backlash from the member who created the thread. Every admin/mod has the authority to delete anything you see on this site, and the simple answer would be to do more harsh moderating. Then we get into the whole "freedom of expression" and blah, blah...

Perhaps, if people really feel that NS is terrible, we as moderators of the site need to start deleting more stuff. I know I'd be more than stoked to simply remove anything I deemed useless crap. Perhaps this is the way to go, perhaps not.

I would think that the very first step is for everyone on here to think about what they're saying. Really ask yourself, "did this post contribute?" if the answer is no, then don't post it.

We've also discussed various ideas that would facilitate positive threads. Thread rating systems (like the pics/vids), member karma, mod ability to bump threads up and down, etc... perhaps a new technological feature is the answer?

As well, there is a bit of a lack of stuff for people to do on the site. The news was average this year so far, the reviews/articles/tricks sections are all broken, and lots of the site's traffic was focused around the forums. We are changing this. Next year we will have an actual news department, and the broken sections of the site will be fixed soon. There are more changes being added, and overall we want to improve the hell out of the "member experience". Perhaps this will be a part of the solution as well, as people will have more things to do than simply talk shit in the forums.

My main point in this thread is that if you guys hate the way the site is, then let's change it! We've got a team here that works full-time, and we can change anything we want! It's the internet! It's not like anything is in print, so we can change anything, everything, nothing, whatever about the site at any time. We want to make it the perfect site for you, and make it a fun place for all skiers to come and share opinions, and learn about this wonderful world of skiing that we all live in.

So take some time, really think hard, and formulate a response to this thread.

I want you to cover the following:

1)What do you hate about NS?

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

3)What do you love about NS?

4)What could happen to make it even better?

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.


Share your opinions! We want to make this site better, and you are the people who use it, so your opinions are pretty much all that matters. Remember....

WE CAN CHANGE IT!

Feb 22 2006 2:46PM
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Frza
Posts: 438 - Karma: 10
1)What do you hate about NS?

People who can't filter through non sense but instead cry like little bitches about how NS sucks these days.

Little kids that talk shit. If you are going to talk shit atleast make it worthwile for others to be entertained by.

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

Skip through bullshit that you aren't interested in, just like you do in REAL life.

3)What do you love about NS?

The freedom to express yourself and to learn and follow the sport we all love.
4)What could happen to make it even better?

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

Delete Delete and Delete. If the shit talking is over a good reason and entertaining then keep it. Otherwise random small comments such as you're gay and etc. should all be deleted.

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.

First of all Doug you are doing a great job and the rest of NS staff. More articles blogs, inside stuff would be nice.
Feb 22 2006 7:28PM
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D-40
Posts: 6050 - Karma: 100
problem with that is the bandwith, the site will probably max out in like 2 days
Feb 22 2006 7:37PM
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B-Har406
Posts: 2484 - Karma: 6
Ok well I don't really have time right now to say everything that I want tosay so here goes. I love NS just because there's no site like it, it's just... NS. But i would like to say if you look at some other forums there mods are amazing. I'm not saying what you guys don't do isn't amazing but come on. Do your job sometimes. It gets out of hand and all you have to do is click "delete" I think if mods got stricter NS would improve a great amount...
Feb 22 2006 7:40PM
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ThaLetterM.
Posts: 8609 - Karma: 1,613
im from wisconsin and u insulted me....but i wont hold it against you because there needs to be more love on NS
Feb 22 2006 7:43PM
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mattster
Posts: 4120 - Karma: 41
put member number instead of post count, i like that idea and it doesnt seem like it would be tough to do
Feb 22 2006 7:43PM
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BillyGoatMan
Posts: 246 - Karma: 10
1)What do you hate about NS?

I hate how I was banned, and haven't gotten a reason yet. I hate how people just post "search bar" to legitimate questions. Sure, they should use the search bar, but why don't you be a good NS member and help them out.

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

The hate will always be there, it's a fact of life. But a reward system for those who don't post hate could be instated, and would help the situation.

3)What do you love about NS?

I love how so many skiers are on here. If I see some sick kid doing steezy 5's in a park, I could probably find him within an hour on Newschoolers. If you're ever going to an unfamiliar hill, you can always find someone to ride with.

The others were covered in those pretty much.
Feb 22 2006 7:44PM
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SaraJ
Posts: 366 - Karma: 52
1) What do you hate about NS?

I strongly dislike all of the trash that comes through on the main forums. Though a lot of posts are helpful or interesting, over half the time you are just going to get trash. It especially makes me angry when somebody starts a topic asking for help or for a genuine opinion and all they get is "you're gay" or "Search Bar". I guess it's mostly that so many members are really very immature.

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

a. Maybe there should be a post limit per day or hour? If it's really all that important for somebody to post 100 times in one day, I'm sure those ideas should be just as valid the next day.

b. Deleting post count for sure. Don't replace it with anything, just get rid of it.

c. Revoking posting priveledges after somebody has crossed the line or has simply posted too much stupid stuff. I don't know if this would be member directed or moderator directed or what, but I think it would work. You could even assign a certain number of members separate from Mods to do this.

d. I know this is 4, but it might be a good idea to just delete all of the older threads. I know they are precious and fun to look at, but it's obnoxious when people bring back pointless old threads.

3)What do you love about NS?

I love being able to hear about all of the skiing news whether is competitions, films, new gear or whatever. The Regional Forums give me news on what is going on at my hill or nearby hills. The picture section is good cause I like looking at other peoples' skiing pictures.

4)What could happen to make it even better?

Honestly, if the hate stopped I would be happy. The news section is great.

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

a. I kind of already said it, but temporarily taking posting priveledges away from people who are causing the havoc would be a huge change. If they get them taken away enough times, then ban them.

b. Allow members to delete their own threads or posts. This way if they realize they posted something dumb, they can just fix it on their own.

c. Delete anything that crosses the line and if the member complains about it, then temporarily revoke posting priveledges.

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.

I think I've said it all. I like how things are, I just completely avoid the main forums for the most part which is sad because I used to like them.
Feb 22 2006 7:50PM
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BillyGoatMan
Posts: 246 - Karma: 10
I think that's a sick idea.
Feb 22 2006 7:52PM
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ineedarealname
Posts: 2658 - Karma: 20
1)What do you hate about NS?

I dont hate much....except bhill....and the way people constantly bitch....and the alias problem....

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

well theres always the ban option... but for the rest, i think shit should have to go through doug first, or something because aliases piss me off to no extent.so yeah i think there should be something to like see if the person has the same IP as someone else? i duno im no computer wizz but that might help.

3)What do you love about NS?

i love all the guys on ns who actually dont just bullshit around...like obviously EVERYONE has some sort of opinion but it all depends on whos gonna be a jackass about it...

4)What could happen to make it even better?

crack the whip on the kids who are being fags. not enough is done to the kids who are making queer/hate threads.

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

as said above....

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.

I just realized that mods couldnt simply, ban everyone and have like a block on certain things for threads, because when you think about it, NS is actually really tight knit. Not many other things on the net i have found where everyone is so connected to everyone and isn't afraid to just get right into things.
Feb 22 2006 7:58PM
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B-Har406
Posts: 2484 - Karma: 6
I also think another thing to add would be an "edit" button, to go back and fix that you said etc.
Feb 22 2006 8:00PM
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SnowMedic
Posts: 2132 - Karma: 25
I think that there needs to be a cut back in members, we are getting up near 80,000 people now. The elimination of members would be determined by how they interact with others on here. But i hope something will work because i dont know how much longer i'm going to be on here.
Feb 22 2006 8:02PM
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holyDINOSAURS
Posts: 7038 - Karma: 639
amen man amen
Feb 22 2006 8:03PM
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tBatt
Posts: 9632 - Karma: 580
soem things id have to agree with is get rid of the whole post count and add date of joining. expand video legnth, make forum icons a little bigger, regular picture sizes are fine. delete some of the useless posts, add age into profile (thers been too many threads about how old are you.) i like the ide of an aoutmatic message to the new people w/ tips and stuff. for banning people i think you should do for a certin period of time depending on what they did wrong, if they continue doing it, bann htrem longer or permanenetly ban the like ip ban or somethign. thats about it for me and if i think of something else, ill post it
Feb 22 2006 8:08PM
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Kasanovah
Posts: 912 - Karma: 35
att: Mr. Bish heh
1. ya the ability to delete your own thread is a good idea.

2. what about a dislike/trash count. For example, like everyone's Karma ideas, but for individual posts. Just have a trash icon with each one. If the post is "trash" or useless, then the user clicks trash, if the post gets say 40 trashes by different users, then it gets deleted.

3. I could totally agree with harsher mods. people should shut up with their freedom of speech crap, quit whining. If you posted crap and nobody wants to hear about it then your post deserves to be deleted. If it didn't deserve it, who cares, is it the end of the world ?

Also, as a side note, a lot of people get riled up when they don't need to. Like me for example, I dont come on NS to stir shit up ever. I like offering honest advice and opinions. Every once in a while someone will rip on me for something I said, insinuating I offended them purposefully with my post. People need to be cool and chill.

In all truth NS forums really aren't that bad, evolution is inevitable (i agree with everyone that previously stated this), you can't rewind time to the good ol days. Something should be done though to moderate the forums a little, if I saw my 1,2, and 3 paragraphs done there'd prolly be a huge difference. (lol, sometimes NS is like a whiny woman, I typed that and realized I had to explain myself cause too many of you would take it the wrong way and whine about it like little girls assuming and telling me that my opinion isnt the best and I need to consider everyone else's lol) So to shortly explain myself, I mean changes in general, they dont have to be MY 3 because I think they're the best or something lol, just give anything/something a try. I just see the three i stated working out decently.

sheesh, lighten up folks. Skiing's sexy, NS is too.
Feb 22 2006 8:12PM
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soup
Posts: 6343 - Karma: 4,415
!!!!!!!!!TAKE AWAY THE GOD DAMN POST COUNTS!!!!!!!! that would solve a lot of problems with hate
Feb 22 2006 8:13PM
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pierceme
Posts: 1483 - Karma: 11
I didnt read through the whole thread because its long but i had an idea of how to improve the amount of bs that comes outta people.

Its kinda like the karma idea. But say that everyone has like a five star rating in their profile. And everyone gets to choose the rating they want to give that person(if they feel like even rating it at all) and u can only give a person one rating. Like if I give someone 4-stars then they will have a 4-star rating from me until i change it. Then if a bunch of people give the person a high rating then they will have a good reputation and people will be able to tell that they contribute positive shit to the site. If someone has like 0 stars then they could still say shit but everyone would know not to listen to em cuz theyre a douche. The persons reputation could appear under their name in the forums and in their profiles.
Feb 22 2006 8:25PM
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midwest_rep
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I have a serious suggestion. I've been on this site for many years now, and its obvious the problem is the forums. What may help is putting a rating next to everyone's name based on how helpful or informative they are.

In this way, people will be less inclined to act like an idiot, since everyone will be able to see their rating and thus, if they have a lower rating, they will be treated accordingly. I think this could help alot, as it would encourage people to be curteous and helpful, rather than moronic and offensive. Just a suggestion.
Feb 22 2006 8:39PM
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W.o.R.d
Posts: 570 - Karma: 18
i agree with taking away the post count...instead maybe put where they live like east coast, midwest, west coast...etc.etc.etc.
Feb 22 2006 8:39PM
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C-Burg
Posts: 4729 - Karma: 130
the problem with people saying use the search bar needs to stop because times change and the subject somebody is talking about could have changed over time
Feb 22 2006 8:47PM
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GarrettBrittain
Posts: 428 - Karma: 10
Moderate everything to hell.
Feb 22 2006 9:10PM
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KRASHED
Posts: 7803 - Karma: 466
Instead of putting in more mods we could hire one person (something like a hitman) to locate flamers and lay down a WWE style smackdown. that'll learn em!
Feb 22 2006 9:19PM
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Schoening
Posts: 14332 - Karma: 1,268
1)What do you hate about NS?

I hate how everyone takes everything little thing way to serious. Just relax and have a good time. You people gotta remeber we are all here because we love skiing.

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

to tell you the truth im not sure

3)What do you love about NS?

I love how its a great way to actually meet new people. I mean I've became good friends with a lotta kids on this site and i think thats super cool you can meet kids you would have never have met if it wasn't for Ns. I love how you can speak your mind and post your videos and pictures to share with others

4)What could happen to make it even better?

tell people to not be so uptight and to just chill when they get on ns. no reason for shittalking. all this shittalking is gunna turn around and come right back in our face. gives us a bad image

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

I guess eliminate any posts that regard to other threads in a "hateful way" not sure if that would work but yeaaaa


6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.

I would never say NS sucks or im leaving. leaving is definatly not in the picture.
Feb 22 2006 9:19PM
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gone
Posts: 199 - Karma: 98
for some reason (i dont talk shit at all, at least not as much as others) but 3 or 4 of my screennames have been deleted and it is annoying cos they last like a month each... what is the deal w/ this?

any answers?
Feb 22 2006 9:42PM
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UrbanRider
Posts: 265 - Karma: 10
1) i dont know if there is anything i hate about ns, though in the vids its normally.....thats sick or u suck....

2)i dont know what would be best, but the post rateings and stuff would be sweet also if the serch bar woudl serch inside the forums not just the name

3)love almost every thing

4)the post rateing would be good

5) not sure what catagory this would go in so ill put it here

some people say it would be good to get ride of the post numbers...i agree.... though if ur "level" on ns could be some how hooked up to the rating system...so if u make good intelagent posts u can be a gold star or what ever....mayeb it would work maybe not
Feb 22 2006 10:04PM
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Ace3+4
Posts: 1493 - Karma: 50
seriously ive always been able to get over all the trash talk. The only thing that really pisses me off is one some says to use to search bar. THe fuck does he care for?? If someone has a question why dont u just answer it instead of typing a search bar! Ns is a place to help n get help for me.
Im not quite sure ow to fix though apart from the members rating system which would be dope. I Also agree on the post count stuff. It's not because u have more posts that ur the shit. The idea of putting stuff like Qc, midwest and stuff like that is pretty cool
Feb 22 2006 10:07PM
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mckeeman
Posts: 2674 - Karma: 122
how about every member must fill out an agreement telling everyone how they should and shouldnt behave. Once this quick survey/questionaire is completed thier account is activated. If they create more than 10 posts that must be modded or deleted, their account goes into suspension.

Or in other words, tell every kid to grow the fuck up.
Feb 22 2006 10:13PM
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SaraJ
Posts: 366 - Karma: 52
I actually like that.
Feb 22 2006 10:13PM
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johnny412
Posts: 68 - Karma: 10
I have been a member on ns since late september, but i have only really gotten in too it recently. I would agree that some changes need to be made. Most of the treads that become massize hate fest, but in the begining it was just a thread of someones opinon and then people says "newb and STFU". I think that people have to learn to accept there are different aspects of freesking, and certain people like different things, and there no reason to make fun of them. I do agree with John Spriggs, that you Bishop shouldn't be the one making threads that encourage people to talk shit. I would love to see people getting booted off for creating a lot of hate threads. Thats all i have to say good luck with the site.
Feb 22 2006 10:27PM
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mad_540_trix
Posts: 2452 - Karma: 14
i like the idea of video trick tips from someone up there ^^^^^^^^
Feb 22 2006 10:28PM
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anti-mogal
Posts: 526 - Karma: 53
ya true i dont think bbishop should be talking about stoping the hate when he makes a forum hateing the switch ten...(witch is a dope trick)
Feb 22 2006 10:30PM
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nickmcnutt
Posts: 4396 - Karma: 2,966
pretty much the best idea ever!


i think we should gave a rating out of 5 stars on our name, and other members can each vote once on our quality of contributions in the forums, etc. if it gets really low, mods can warn them that they will be banned, and if it keeps up, then ban them, after a certain amount of people have voted, say 100 or so.
Feb 22 2006 10:41PM
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mattster
Posts: 4120 - Karma: 41
1)What do you hate about NS?

well, I think hate is too strong a word on this one, but I definately dislike the aliases, and bickering between members. also USE THE FUCKIN SEARCHBAR gets on my nerves and if you are reading this, never post that again.

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?

1) Mods, clean up the aliases.
2) fuck freedom of speach, if a moderator wants to delete my or anyone eltses post for whatever reason, its for the good of the community and it should happen
3) and members should stop hating eachother all the time, for fucksakes. would you tell this person to commit suicide and quit skiing if you saw them fall off a rail in real life ? of course you wouldn't (plus it wouldnt be very funny in person and surprise surprise, it's not funny on ns.com)

3)What do you love about NS?

I love the cults idea, that was a booming success. I like the picture and videos section and watching people progress like crazy, stuff like that. and I like the fact that you can find out pretty much everything you want to know about skiing, or whatever in the forums ( just sift through all the YOU'RE GAY posts ect.)

4)What could happen to make it even better?

Attitudes of the members changing, live like bunnies ! have more fun with the website, stop hating people for no real reason. knaw' sayin ?

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

1 The karma system instead of post count, because it should be quality and not quantity

2 ban jerks ( mostly aliases/ people who spam / warning people who hate needlessly, then ban )

3) keep on truckin

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.

I pretty much gave'r up there ^ but yeah, KARMA SYSTEM ! age in profile ! live like bunnys ! dont hate ! enjoy life ! dont run into trees !
Feb 22 2006 10:41PM
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STAUSS
Posts: 8232 - Karma: 3,311
thats what i said
Feb 22 2006 10:58PM
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freeskisquaw
Posts: 1120 - Karma: 16
Goodbye all and thanks for the good times. NS is inevitably doomed to failure because of all the bad attitudes around and people who have nothing to say but insist on saying it in the rudest and most inflammatory manner. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope that there are no hard feelings here. Honestly though, there is nothing that NS can do to stop the attitude. It is a fundamental attitude problem that will eventually destroy this site.

Peace all of you and I hope to see you on the hill.
Feb 22 2006 11:28PM
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nickmcnutt
Posts: 4396 - Karma: 2,966
i doubt this will work, but maybe have different forums for different levels of tha rating system i talked about a few posts up, like if you click on ski gabber, it will take you to one of the 3 ski gabbers, all having seperate levels of ns members. that way, if all you want to do is talk shit, you can go waste your posts over in the low level forums. just an idea. or, have seperate cults that you are assigned to, and the higher level cults can look at all of them, where the bottom level ones are restricted. then the higher level cult grand masters {maybe mods, or very responsible members} can nominate them to "graduate" to a higher level cult, opening up more forums. perhaps this will somewhat filter the shit to stay on the bottom level. and, you can be demoted if you keep start being an inconsiderate bastard posting useless shit at any time. that way, you dont have to just ban them, you can still let them do what they want, but it will be in a seperate forum that everyone else who are better members wont bother going to. that way, you can still use ski gabber, but at a higher level without reding through pages of worthless posts. wow, that was alot of typing.
Feb 22 2006 11:32PM
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chowe6
Posts: 357 - Karma: 30
i find it funny that some of the biggest shit talkers reply to this thread and say the shit talking needs to stop.... they should read their own posts
Feb 22 2006 11:37PM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
1)What do you hate about NS?
I dont hate it i hate a lot of the ppl on it

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?
only let newbs post after they have posted a few pics skiing categories (hopefully of themselves) so we can ensure that the members of this site really are skiers??

make a 2 week delay for newbs to post.

look for the haters and stop the hate. enforce this too, boot ppl that are clearly not adding to the NS community.

3)What do you love about NS?
when lat was here, b4 all the hate, and the occasional thread when there are no haters hating.

4)What could happen to make it even better?
all the haters go to hell

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.
look up^^

6)Comment your brains out on everything you need to see changed on the site, so that you never say "NS sucks, I'm leaving" again.
dont let the moderators be suck assholes!
Feb 22 2006 11:40PM
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chowe6
Posts: 357 - Karma: 30
just out of curiosity why do you need to see pics, ive been skiing for 17 yrs and i have like maybe 2 or 3 pics of me actually skiing, if you have the ability to have your little minions follow you everywhere to take your pics and make you feel cool then good for you but i personally would rather ski all day then spend time posing for pics
Feb 22 2006 11:43PM
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Rogge
Posts: 5773 - Karma: 3,930
1)What do you hate about NS?
I don't like the negative responses to 11 year old kids trying as hard as they can to do a 360 and 6 kids saying "ugly style" "you suck"

2)What are 3 suggestions to fix what you hate?
I think replacing the post counts with karma points would be great.

3)What do you love about NS?
I like being able to leave messages for friends i leave on the mountain and being able to share my love for skiing with thousands of other people that enjoy the greatest winter sport ever

4)What could happen to make it even better?

More content, i liked the NS Journalist connection or whatever it was idea. It kind of died. Allow kids to earn Karma points for writing stories and posting pics and video from events.

5)Give 3 reasonable suggestions for how to stop the hate and shit-talking in the forums.

I think the possible warning system would be great but that turns the NS.com staffs job into a babysitting job
Feb 22 2006 11:43PM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
i dont know. when i type its just a stream of thoughts coming from my brain, dont take it seriously.
Feb 22 2006 11:45PM
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chowe6
Posts: 357 - Karma: 30
thats cool bro i was just curious cause being in my situation with no pics and shit i know theres others and i know when i came here i didnt know shit about newschool and i learned alot from this site and i thinkk its good for the sport to have the new kids have the same resources
Feb 22 2006 11:48PM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
another problem with ns and the internet in general. when ppl type something it does not mean they are completely serious about it. if we were it would be, well, completely boring!
Feb 22 2006 11:48PM
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chowe6
Posts: 357 - Karma: 30
true dat, its hard to sound sarcastic or jockingly in a internet forum
Feb 22 2006 11:49PM
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Schoening
Posts: 14332 - Karma: 1,268
people need to realize that talking shit over the internet is not "badass" its probably the most pussy thing to do.....ever
Feb 22 2006 11:57PM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
i will admit it tho, i do enjoy making fools of complete idiots/assholes. sorry i have no guilt. its a disorder.
Feb 22 2006 11:58PM
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chowe6
Posts: 357 - Karma: 30
cause you know if confronted in real life they would back down like little girls they just have a username to hide behind here
Feb 22 2006 11:58PM
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Schoening
Posts: 14332 - Karma: 1,268
exactly
Feb 23 2006 12:04AM
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Someone614
Posts: 14 - Karma: 10
I have wanted to post a lot of things but didnt cause I didnt want to hear someone say "Shut up noob". The term noob blows.
Feb 23 2006 12:26AM
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monkeysteez
Posts: 2655 - Karma: 99
it does if ur a n00b. but its way fun if your not! haha. see now DONT take that seriosuly. give it a LAUGH!
Feb 23 2006 12:30AM
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