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Capurnicus
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Its been said before..but it reeally is such an awesome magazine..really changes how you think.
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Jan 16 2003 11:54PM
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TAK
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Yeah, but a little post-modern at times. I want instant gradifaction for my money goddamitfuckinglibealhippiescum.

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Jan 17 2003 11:21PM
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sugarloafer1990
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i've cut off all junk food and soda because of adbusters. and the only ice cream i eat is ben and jerrys. (since their socially responsible.)
and i've finally convinced my family to eat Veagan twice a week.

so yea, adbusters is amazing, best mag out there. its really really awesome, can't describe how awesome it is.










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Jan 21 2003 2:12PM
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CTripper
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can you buy this magazine at any bookstore?
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Jan 21 2003 2:32PM
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coz
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wouldn't simply eating the ice cream be hypocritical, regardless of ben & jerry's being socially responsible.. ??
Jan 21 2003 8:18PM
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Capurnicus
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i don't see that...i'm not hardcore enough to do that yet..but i'm only 15 and i will move on and eventually i'll start into boycotting and etc..but personally i watch adds and critize them, but i don't let them take effect..i don't drink pepsi or coke however..thats my first step haha
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Jan 21 2003 10:49PM
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andyrightcoast
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You guys are being hypocritical by letting that magazine effect you. Its a sort of reverse advertisement. Make your own descisions and do what you like, life is too short to worry about what is 'socially responcible'
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Jan 21 2003 11:50PM
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sugarloafer1990
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First of all...its not hypocritical at all to read a mag and get ideas from it. Its not like the magazine has influenced me completely. Im a liberal, and its a liberal magazine and its giving me more knowledge about how to live as environmentally and socially responsibly as i can.

its still impossible for me to do this completely, im only 15. especially clothes! everyone piece of clothing is made in sweat shops almost. but i try to cut off as much as i can without changing my lifestyle, being that im only 15.

i cut off junk food because its incredibly bad considering the children diabities rate in the U.S. rite now. Also i cut off from Coke and Pepsi because they are horrible companies.

I still eat Ben and Jerry's because I have to get a little treat in there at least once a month...and i really want to support a company Ben Cohen founded.










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Jan 22 2003 3:47PM
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Capurnicus
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congradulations thats awesome man..i'm gonna work on it this summer
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Jan 22 2003 8:35PM
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c_lo
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Yeah I wouldn't say liberal infront of any real people. They will call you a poser. You need to go and find out what liberal means, especially in economic terms.
Jan 23 2003 2:11PM
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sugarloafer1990
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uh, i just said i was liberal...maybe i should use the word 'lefty' and i wasn't listing how i was liberal. and besides most people don't know the definition of liberal. See, people thinks democrats are liberal. Their not. 99% of democrats are more conservative in my mind than liberal.












theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Jan 23 2003 3:44PM
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c_lo
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Alright I'l spell it out for you Neo Liberal policies, go find out what that means and how it relates to liberalism and locke
Jan 25 2003 10:47PM
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sugarloafer1990
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Dude, when you think of liberal, a real liberal, people usually think of people like Nader. I know he is actully a PROGRESSIVE. but many people refer to him as liberal. now, i share the beliefs of nader, and i don't really get used to saying Progressive, so i just say Liberal.......










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Jan 27 2003 8:04PM
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coz
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you guys are talking about different ideas. modern american liberalism has become something completely different than what people like locke had in mind when forming the most primitive liberal ideals.
Jan 28 2003 10:36AM
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TAK
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huh, please explain, I have too much to read has it is.

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Jan 29 2003 2:56AM
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yeah what the hell is this magazine and how is it brainwashing you not to drink coke or pepsi, can you buy it at a bookstore or do you have to go to some healthfood store for it
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Jan 29 2003 9:58AM
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coz
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adbusters: the journal of your mental environment.

it doesn't try to brainwash, all it does is present reality in a different light. go to whatever halfway decent bookstore there is in your area and pick it up. it's a canadian publication, so it shouldn't be that hard to find in canada.
Jan 29 2003 10:19AM
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Phrosty
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poor ppl hate consumerism and capitalism. All you whiny bitches need to shut the fuck up and live life the rich way, the american way, and if your canadian do it the american way aswell.

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Jan 29 2003 6:33PM
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baaaaaahhhh! baaaaahhhhhh!

god damned sheep


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Jan 29 2003 7:37PM
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WHat?

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Jan 29 2003 8:27PM
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Capurnicus
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oh of course we get a post from our good ignorant assfuck, phrosty
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Jan 29 2003 10:46PM
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coz
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please explain to me who the sheep are.
Jan 29 2003 10:54PM
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Phrosty
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ohh goo, come on now. Really, what are you doing to fight comsumerism? painting all your shit pink so noone knows what brand it is? Adbusters is a business just like any other.


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Jan 31 2003 7:30PM
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c_lo
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Alright, frosty is a homo but I'm going to have to agree with him on the poser issue here. It's alright to want freedom and equality and all the rest of it, but if reading adbusters is your main contribution/source of knowledge than sit down. Now adbusters is a good magazine but i get the feeling that you nader reading mutherfuckers should probably hit your local books store and buy out the current events section. Your simply buying propaganda from the left. Now this shit can be intresting and inspiring and thats all well and good but you need to know what the fuck your talking about. Corporations are shitty but in the long run it's the system that sustains it. We live in a capitalist system, the corporations are doing a pretty fucking good job at fufilling their duties. Just because you eat ben and jerrys and don't go to the gap doesn't mean shit. You kids need to stop defining yourself by material and build up your minds if you want to make a change. To sum what the fuck my wrecked brain is trying to say I will quote MC Paul Barman 'If you think you think outside the box your living in one' I mean fuck your talking about combating consumerism with consumerism, your as much a part of this shit as that abecrombie wearing bitch beside you. Now I don't want to discourage you from knowing whats up. But I think that you should by No Logo, a chomsky book or on the road by jack kerouac instead of buying adbusters because there is a good fucking chance that you don't exactly understand what these people are talking about and even if you do its still fucking garbage. Fuck mtv and fuck the media.
As far as the locke thing goes where the fuck you think the decleration of independence comes from? Because the word plagerism comes to mind. Of course political policies change but its the same shit different toilet. Lockes theories have ALWAYS been manipulated by the same crackers who sold slaves and talked shit about social darwinism.
Jan 31 2003 8:14PM
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c_lo have you read the dharma bums?
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Jan 31 2003 9:11PM
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c_lo
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No, thats on the to read list, I'm reading Desolation Angeles right now, its a mix between sick and neurotic. The Buddhist sentiments are increadble in it.
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Jan 31 2003 9:23PM
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Capurnicus
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well phrosty, skiing requires you to ski on something corporate made, unless you want to make your own out of picnictables, which leaves me to none other to buy skis made by a rather large corporation, in terms of skiing there is nothing i can do, its just not possible
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Feb 1 2003 5:48PM
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Phrosty
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yeah look at you going out and buying the newest armadas, the newest oakley schway. If you were really into all the adbusters bull shit you would be riding on the same skis for 10 years, all duct taped up, and you would have economicly priced gear and clothing, just admit it your a fucking hypocrite!


googoo271 - 'Oh of course we get a post from our good ignorant assfuck, phrosty'
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Feb 1 2003 7:34PM
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sugarloafer1990
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i don't understand how everyones allowed to let music and commercials influence them, but since i let an anti-big business magazine influence me its wrong. Its not like i didn't have anti-corporation beliefs before i read adbusters. They make good points in their magazine. And everyone else, if you want to know the real reason why i don't drink coke, go to google, type in Coke Death Squads, and go to the bbc link. i think thats a pretty damn good reason

My main point is: Adbusters has influenced me, but isn't me as a person, it has just help influence my ideas.
When someone reads a book, it influences them. When someone sees a commercial is probally will influence them to buy the product.
When someone heres a song, the lyrics mite influence them.
So why the fuck can't i let a magazine help influence me. Just because all you people are conservatives who are against adbusters, doesn't mean you have to call people who like the magazine posers because it influences their beliefs.
and i still don't understand how we are posers??










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Feb 1 2003 9:14PM
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TAK
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Hmmm... that rifle looks alot like an American one. I wonder how that happened. And I wonder what types of rifle the rebels use. hmmm...
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Feb 1 2003 11:23PM
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Capurnicus
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? i had the money phrosty and i wanted new skis so i bought them, if you had a toyota and then you got 50000 dolllars would you buy a mercedes? i'm not a hippie going around not doing anything corporate, i'm not saying that, adbusters is just a view on things that is way different from anything else man, its not like i worship them
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Feb 2 2003 2:57PM
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sugarloafer1990
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yeah, and also one of the points of adbusters is to show HOW HARD IT IS TO NOT BE INVOLVED WITH CORPORATE AMERICA....thats why they have buy nothing day. just because you like adbusters, doesn't mean you can't buy stuff, because its extremely hard in this country to live like that, for that matter any country.










theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
Feb 2 2003 8:00PM
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coz
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as i see it, a person that reads adbusters, and believes in the ideolgies that it presents has begun to contribute to what i hope will be the eventual change of our current lifestyle.

you truly do have to start somewhere, and by going along with independent publications like adbusters (which i'll admit does exploit the very medium that it shows so much contempt for), a step has been taken. from this step hopefully come many more that are aimed in the right direction.
Feb 2 2003 10:16PM
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TAK
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Anybody remember that letter that Adbusters recieved and published about putting out an all-text issue? Strange how they've seemed to become even more picture oriented since then. Bleh...
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Feb 7 2003 10:51PM
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