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Twins that can handle ice, speed, and carves?
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Ok, so I need some suggestions. I have some twins that are great in the park, and some that are decent on groomers. But I need one that can handle the east coast hardpack and ice. It would also need to be very stable at high speeds and carving. I have done some research so far it looks like the ones listed below may fit my needs. I would appreciate it if anyone could comment on these skis or suggest a better one:
Volkl Karma
Elan M02
Head MadTrix
Atomic Stomp
1080 CR Labs
Norica Beast
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First choice: Head Mad Trix. By FAR. I have heard good reports on the M02 but have not skiied it myself. But all you need to know is the MT carves like a GS ski.
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^^ I love my TM's, but they seem a little unstable at high speeds and in not-so-great conditions.
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that's what i was coming in here to recommend.
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mojo 90's for shur, iv herd they are a sick ski for that type of shit and are sick in the park and in the backcountry
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Is the MoJo basically a newer/wider MadTrix?
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well carving on ice has nothing to do with the ski.. carving does, but if you want anything that'll hold up on ice, sharpen it. but, when you sharpen your skis, they catch easier on rails.... so its up to you. as for carving skis, something with a wood core for sure, and something stiff. pe is pretty good when it comes to that
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yeah....the foil, if you want death.
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I've heard nothing but praise for the karmas.
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what about scratch fs 06?
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I have the 04/05 head mojo's and have skied everywhere on them and they rock from whistler, to vail to Australia and all types of snow they are a good ski
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The Elan Mo2's are the best carving twins I've ever tried.
They have a shorter turning radius than most twins and can crank out turns on ice with ease. They are pretty stiff, which helps a lot.
I'd also check out the Scott P3, I haven't had a chance to demo yet, but they're supposed to be pretty stiff with a nasty sidecut
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I've said it about 100 times, the old scott p2s hold an edge beter than any other twin.
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I was not aware the Scott was still making skis.
It would be nice to demo them all, but I have found that finding twin-tip demos is not an easy thing.
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they have been available in europe, but the twins are finally coming to the us this year.
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Line chronics, handles really well on the east coast
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Flynn is right on, I'm still using my old Scott P2's, absolutely LOVE them!
Incredible ski... (especially for the east coast)
unfortunatly they're beat to hell now and I desperatly need a new pair of something similar,
If the new P3 is anything like the P2's, it will no doubt be my ski of choice this winter.
Luckily there's a shop near me that's going to carry them and does demos.
Hopefully I'll be able to get out on them within' a month...
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JD knows whats up. These bad boys rip the ice...way better then the other park skis with sharp edges. i could race with these and compete but not with my 1260's with sharp edges...
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i have public enemies and they are sick in the park and out and wide enough for when we get a little east coast delight
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Foil is one of the best all mountain skis for this winter, carves great from wat i've heard/. but at 87 in the waist it might be a little fat for carving on ice coast "snow"
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head mts, pes or maybe the chronics
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1. MAD TRIX MOJO 80's
2. ATOMIC TRIPLETS
3. ELAN MO2
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fuck if you can ski good any ski will work i'm guna ski invaders on the race team because the race team is gay and im guna start a revolution hahaha
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yeah. everyone is going to start following your trend and be racing on invaders. a short while after that.. everyone will be bald at 15.
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I raced some uscsa last season and got pissed at my race stock rossis so ran the PE's... Not really ment for ICE... but with the right body position it can work
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I hate K2 but this years PEs are I ski I would most defenetly consider
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The K2 outlaw...while it is not marketed as a newschool/factory team ski...it kicks major ass for most NS applications
Its a real ski, and holds a mean edge at very high speed...
I have a pair of 181s flat mounted (no binding integrated binding system) and put nearly 40-days last spring/summer on em at Mammoth...sick in the Pipe...so much power.
I hate that people are so short sighted with skis that they cannot look beyond the "twin tip" selection on the ski rack
Skis like the outlaw have enough tail for all switch applications (other than powder, but come on, how many of you actually ski pow switch?)
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Have you ridden them, or are you just saying what you've heard?
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Ninthward looks and sounds like a cool ski, but I have yet to see one on the hill.
Anyone know what the current proform is on the MoJo 80? You can PM me with it if you want...
How is the "extra edge" on the MO2? Does it work well for rails, or is it just a gimmik?
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Apparently it's sort of a gimmick rail-wise, but does actually help keep the edges intact because it's connected to them, or something like that. If nothing else, it doesn't hurt.
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for sure you should go to for the HEad MAdtrix...ive heard those are pretty sick...
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I don't mean to sound sacriligious but if you have 2 other pair of twins for doing what twins do and you want a fast carving ski that kills the ice, get a ski that is made/markeeted for that. If you just wanted one ski to do all that on plus park than the head or the volkl you mentioned are great choices but they are both far cries from the performance you'd get on ice from a legit gs style allmountain ski. Cop the Nordica Speed Machine 14's or if you're REALLY good/big the SM16's. You'd also like the Fischer RX9, and the Atomic SXB5.
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dude if you're even a moderate skier any pair of skis will be fine for you.
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anything that isn't too soft. for carves, you want stiffness (definately gotta be wood core)
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best twin on ice in my opinion is last years skogen sprang...which is basically this years chronic wide...i think its stiffer then the karma
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exactly what I was going to say. Why buy a twin for carving?? I demoed the Fischer RX8s the other day and they were truely awesome. I have a pair of atomic sx11s which are also incredible skis, i haven't skied the b5s but they have basically replaced the 11s so they will be good.
If you're gonna complain you can't ski switch on non twins then shhh, it is possible. I can carve switch on my sx11s all day with no problems, i can pop 180s landing switch no problems. The only thing you are not going to be able to do is hit a big kicker and land switch. and if thats what your planning on doing get on ur park skis.
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A ski has a lot to do with how it handles on ice. True, the skiers ability makes a big differernce too.. but that will only hold an edge for so long. I can ski like hell on twins, but the ones I have are a little too soft for ec ripping.
True, a "regular" ski would fill my needs the best. But honestly, I hate "regular" skis now... I only want to ski on twins. If it was not for twins I would probably be snowboarding every day instead.
I had the chronic's last year, they did hold an edge nice... but there was something about them that I did not like. Maybe it was the 8lb bindings.
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i would never again buy a non twinned ski, so i would be looking for a twin that can hold an edge. after you start to learn to ski fakie, you'll never go back to a non twin.
when im riding around here (east coast small hills) i love to pop 180's and ski fakie for a while.
thats why people are looking for a twin that can hold a decent edge while carving.
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