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NS - Sold out?

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Mr.Bishop
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A quote:

"On another note, quick question to the admins of this site: is there any controversial issue on which you guys won't whore yourselves out to one side or the other? It wasn't always that way... time was when you had actual individual opinions. Now it seems like whenever one of these things comes up you're a bunch of spokesmen with red names prostituting yourselves uniformly out to whomever you owe some sort of industry allegiance. That's kind of sad. And you can hate me all you like for my saying so, but Jesus, it's what I see around here, and far too often."

When you read something like this and know that it's directed straight at you, some people get really angry. I do too, and then wonder... are they right?

Many media sources in skiing are one-sided. However, working at NS is totally different. I read as much of as what's posted on this site as my tired eyes can manage. What I will always feel is the beauty of this site, is it gives every person an equal voice to state their opinion.

Those opinions might not always be good, and yes I do have the ability to just systematically delete everything I don't like, but I never do that. I much prefer dealing with my own problems.

So, I'm opening this question up to all of you. Don't be shy to say negative things if you want to.

I only ask that you give your honest opinion.








Increase the peace?

The only piece I'll increase is that which deletes your peeps.



Aug 30 2005 1:05PM
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Jib_This
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NS is so far from having "sold out" that it's not even funny.

"Mistakes don't make sellouts". Nobody's perfect, shit happens. Forgive, forget, and we all learn from it.

Your efforts at staying true to the sport have been noted, and we're stoked that NS is still around. Bitching about shit doesn't help anything. Constructive criticism and debate? Still good as far as I'm concerned.

If I didn't like it, would I still post here? I don't think so.






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Aug 31 2005 3:37AM
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Mr.Bishop
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You said it.

Constructive criticism and debate are what I wish every day would happen more on here.

If we could all make elloquent posts, and really bring out the issues in skiing it would make for such better content.

This thread has been a pretty damn good example of that if you ask me. People have been telling it how they see it, and instead of just calling each other gay, have been responding with well-written replies.

Oh, and thanks for all the love guys.

And for those who don't like us: Fuck you. Get off the site.

Hahhahah....




Increase the peace?

The only piece I'll increase is that which deletes your peeps.



Aug 31 2005 8:42AM
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Odd_Job
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there we go doug... thats more like it

Aug 31 2005 11:52AM
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kendrick
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now at least it's on the table that companies that have partnered with ns admins are allowed to make press releases while others that are not part of the ns admins cool guy club are not allowed to make press releases. To the members of ns, if you don't see press releases from predator, please understand that it's not because we don't want to make announcements.... or because we don't have worthy information, we're just not welcome to. But whether these admins like it or not, we are part of the newschool industry, we will make apparel intended for this niche, we will be sponsoring newschool skiers, we will be present at newschool events. cko, for a guy who has sold out to the brands on the right, either for money or to bolster your prescious elitist ego trip, you sure do a good job of making yourself look like you haven't sold out. doug, I don't believe I've disagreed with anything you've said to date. Peace bros. Skiing sure is fun.

Aug 31 2005 11:58AM
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Girays_Brother
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i just dont like some of the banners that were flying on here a while ago, the ones that barely have anything to do with skiing

I HATE NY PRODUCTION

- BOGART!!!!!!!!
Aug 31 2005 12:03PM
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PUNX_on_PLANKS
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it seems to me that there is too much shit talking going on here on NS. Whether its somone talking smack to another member, or someone talking shit about a new film company, shop, or clothing line. Those who do that sort of shit on here know that they can do so because they are safe at home. If they did this up on the hill face to face, (which they would'nt prob. do) they would end up getting beat down. The kids on here should be stoked on peoples efforts to create something new. sure if they don't like it or don't agree with someone on here then they are not forced to do so. But all this East against West, and Canada Vs. the States, and shop vs. shop CRAP needs to stop.
We are all skiers here, and this is not some wannabe rap war. Just keep all the negative talk outta here. It will make NS more united, and strong!

Aug 31 2005 1:10PM
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miss_hevern87
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somethings need to be deleted. some things dont. you are moderators for a reason, i'm sure you all use your best judgement.

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Aug 31 2005 1:20PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Kendrick, Kendrick, Kendrick...

Please stop it.

I'm getting so tired of hearing "cko this, cko that". I feel like it's all you do. Come on here and try to bash Chris. Don't you have anything better to do?

Hell there's been people in this thread who have said "I'm glad predator isn't a sponsor, they're not newschool."

So take it like a man and shut the hell up.




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Aug 31 2005 1:21PM
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kendrick
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"Those who do that sort of shit on here know that they can do so because they are safe at home. If they did this up on the hill face to face, (which they would'nt prob. do) they would end up getting beat down. The kids on here should be stoked on peoples efforts to create something new."

Cheers to that. I've said my piece on this issue.

Aug 31 2005 1:28PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Kendrick - you constantly try to take this aloof high road.

I could take that same post you just put up, and apply it to everything you've ever said on this site. You're calling yourself out.

Do you really want us to point out all the flaws in your company? Leak information from the inside?

The rest of the people at your new business sure seem to think that this pursuit you have is pretty damn juvenile.




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It's stuffed with a bunch of combination locks.





Aug 31 2005 1:31PM
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Girays_Brother
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im glad predators not sponsor, theyre oldschool!

I HATE NY PRODUCTION

- BOGART!!!!!!!!
Aug 31 2005 1:35PM
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J.D.
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See, there we go... that's a legit opinion, that's about as far from a bunch of talking points as it gets, and people can agree or disagree with you, but there it is. You've come to the point of all this right there... Thank you, Doug.

Now just keep applying that to everything.

Aug 31 2005 1:35PM
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skisebski
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i wanna hear about the flaws.

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Aug 31 2005 1:35PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Hey you guys were the ones to give me the courage to speak out.

For that I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Awww... now I feel all warm and fuzzy!




I got my homie don't play this sock...

It's stuffed with a bunch of combination locks.





Aug 31 2005 1:37PM
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feihlination
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i dont see a problem that big on here. none of us is giving so much blood to ns.com than the mods and admins. and they try to make money out of it. what would we say if a membership on here costs e.g. 20 bucks a year. theyre doing the job and thats good. its a great page, my fav page in the web. i like the humour that is in the threads, but still the seriousity isnt lost on here.

i am on here for two years now, and i feel to be some kind of an oldie, and i got to say that ns.com didnt get worse. its already as informative than two years ago. there are so many people on here that are smart and dont use the anonomisity to make fun of people, groups and companies. some do, but some did always.

ns is so a moving and progressing community like there arent much in the world. there are of course some people that are trying to destroy the community but in my opinion ns is good, no matter who is sponsering it or how many companies are sponsering it. or is it spelled spponcerring? some of you may know that joke, it was hilarious once.

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Aug 31 2005 1:38PM
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Girays_Brother
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haha doug your my idol

I HATE NY PRODUCTION

- BOGART!!!!!!!!
Aug 31 2005 1:49PM
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Deezl
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Kendrick,
While it's not my business and not my fight....I would like to point out to you that your incessant bitching about cko makes you come off as very childish.

You've said your piece about it 100 times now. I respect your right to be angry because you feel slighted but lay it to rest.

These posts make your company lose some of its legit nature in the eyes of a lot of the members who read them. Predator has always come off as a roots company who's trying to make its way, in my eyes. The more you post these things though, the more you appear to be just like the little kids on this site claiming to have an outerwear company.

To everyone out there that "believes" they are in the "industry", airing your dirty laundry on NS is the most unprofessional thing I've ever witnessed.

Aug 31 2005 1:54PM
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hendrik.
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Since this thread has reverted to the good ole' NS style of bashing someone who posted above-

I would just like to say to Kendrick, read Shasta's post up above. That's how the majority of the community feels. Look at CKO, he, along with Doug, Paul, and the rest of the NS staff, represent the community. We don't want you here. They don't want you here.

Enough! What part of us not liking bigger "not-so-core" brands do you not understand!!

-hendrik
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Aug 31 2005 2:22PM
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LittleJibber16
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id just like to give MacMahoon props for being the only mod to respond to this thread, and also i don't get why sometimes threads sellng custom crocheted hats are deleted, it doesn't happen as much anymore but i still don't get it

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Aug 31 2005 6:46PM
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KeegLove
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come now even though kendrick is a douche we are all a family, we need to forgive and forget.

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Aug 31 2005 7:31PM
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prophet
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whats the old quote about arguing on the olympics... like winning the special olympics and whatnot?

Aug 31 2005 7:50PM
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Odd_Job
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whether you win or lose in the special olympics, it doesn't matter cause you're all still retarded? i believe that is how the saying goes but please correct me if i am wrong.

ps: doug, please do call out predator on all their imperfections, i'm sure everyone would love to know this secret info. hell, i'm definitely curious now that you made that statement. so go at it, blast away.

Aug 31 2005 8:38PM
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skodeo7
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maybe NS should consider having a few new mods or something

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Aug 31 2005 8:42PM
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cjgncjgn
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Hey Doug,

Their are a few changes I would love to see made to the site,

first of all Admin's should not post unless it's a news item, or a totally factual event. Admins should not have opinions.

Second of all more updates on parks etc, I know that people would all be willing to take pictures of their parks and update it. I would personally be willing to take on the responsibility of Park updates for Blue Mountain.

Thirdly if a thread is deleted, the creator of the thread or the person who caused the deletion should be notified of why it happened.

and other than that NS could easily pick up more sponsorships if they went after them, NS is a powerful force in the Newschool Skiing industry, and with more sponsors it could grow and be even better.

I also would not oppose a $5 membership fee just so that someone being banned is a bigger deal and the alias's would stop.

thats my 2 pennies

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Aug 31 2005 9:13PM
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hendrik.
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in response to the park thing, what doug and cko are tring to do is get money thru the updates...if you see what i mean. I talked to them about this before, and thought they would love to have joe schmo do the updates, they'd rather....you know....

i dont know how much i should be saying, if a tall, or if it even matters, delete me if you'd lie doug/zko/paul

-hendrik
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Aug 31 2005 9:27PM
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Deezl
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Doug,
Don't do as was suggested and stoop to spreading confidential information. Keep your integrity otherwise this will just mirror another H30 thread. Everyone airing their dirty laundry in the most inappropriate medium. It would also be a bad business decision for the site.

Aug 31 2005 9:39PM
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westcoaststyle
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newschoolers.com PRESENTED BY MCDONALDS

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it seems like this stage of life for a lot of people around our age is like when you are playing a video game and you beat the Final Boss, only to find out that it was just a decoy Final Boss and the real Final Boss is ten times stronger. and you used all of your life and special powers on the decoy.
Aug 31 2005 9:48PM
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westcoaststyle
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newschoolers has not sold out in any way, shape or form. even if they did, what business of yours is it? most of us contribute sweet fuck all to the site so i say they can do whatever they want to survive. people need to eat. they could take the member list off the left side and fill it with ads for porn and erectile difficulty drugs for all i care.

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it seems like this stage of life for a lot of people around our age is like when you are playing a video game and you beat the Final Boss, only to find out that it was just a decoy Final Boss and the real Final Boss is ten times stronger. and you used all of your life and special powers on the decoy.
Aug 31 2005 9:53PM
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sherpasrock
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i agree that it needs to be stopped, like the admins need to give a good example of being individual, etc. i got flammed the other day because i said i liked something that a lot of other people didnt like. i really dont care if all they have to say is "go get a life moron" or something like that, cause in the end i know its what i think that matters.

on the flip side, i have, and always will be, thankful to the mods/admins for this website. without it i would have never gotten into newschool skiing, which is pretty much all i think about 24/7 ( u know they say a guy thinks about sex like every 15 seconds or something, i think about skiing like every 5).

anyway, overall i think that the mods/admins have been doing a good job. granted i dont really pay attention to these kinds of things (mods removing stuff, people complaining and all) i just come here to see whats going on in skiing, and for that i am thankful.

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Aug 31 2005 10:21PM
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sherpasrock
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^what it think is what matters to me***** (i was not trying to say my way or the highway)

"I got this sick sticker from K2 for $300 came with free skis" ~t-man152
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Aug 31 2005 10:27PM
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CorkWormTurn
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personally i wish there was way more moderation. To me, deleting people's posts bashing on something, like, oh i dunno, h3o is WAY less useful than if you'd delete posts from mongoloids that come on to write: HEY WHATS UP!! SO WOULD YOU PAY 50$ TO SEE DANNY KASS VERSUS TANNER HALL? I THINK TANNER WOULD TOTALLY WIN CUZ KNUCKLEDRAGGERS SUCK ASS. BY THE WAY SHOULD I GET 179CM SKIS OR 180 PLEASE HELLLPP1!!!!

I personally hate sorting through crap that is just without question worthless, and i'd rather have that modded off than someone's opinion, no matter how offensive.

And also, predator is gay, not newschool, and never will be. The first picture in the gallery on your website is Adam schrab doing a way cool double misty (says the caption). bottom line is you just don't get it, and kendrick's posts on here don't help show otherwise. i wonder if kendrick's mogul buddies give him a reach around when he's in the "predator position", or if FIS bans that for breaking form.

Aug 31 2005 10:43PM
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CorkWormTurn
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Crazy man your insane check it!!!!!

this thread (on the front page right now) is an example of the kind of thing i'd rather just have the moderators remove.

Aug 31 2005 10:44PM
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freezed
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haha...everyone already thinks you are a mod anyways.

ill be super rich and own mt.hood and let everybody from ns ski for free... except freezed -hoodratz47
Aug 31 2005 11:41PM
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prophet
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NS needs to sell out for real and get some arabian sheik sponsors or some sultan or something, maybe get some official endorsement from the russian mob, then wed really be rolling deep.

Aug 31 2005 11:51PM
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Tross
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I just wrote a bunch of stuff about how NS isn't selling out and how they're paying the bills to bring all of us something a little better. Then the page refreshed. Anyhow, they might even get to buy a house some day at this rate. Retirement will be so rewarding.

I also noted how I have contributed to CKO in the form of stories and photos. I spent a lot of time and interviewed a bunch of people who probably think I suck at writing now. He didn't want to use it and I'm not but-hurt (not too bad anyhow). That's his choice and I don't feel insulted because it's his site. He can do whatever the hell he feels like. The same goes for the people he hires. I don't find that very hard to understand.

We've kicked it before and are not really more than acquaintences and I'm not offended. I think it's about time to let that whole shit go man and direct your energy somewhere else.

Everyone has to make money. No one stays 15 forever. These guys are working for you. Just remember that. At least Doug took the time to hear your imputs. I'd have been like, "fuck it." How much did you pay for your Freeze, Powder or Freeskier subscriptions? How much do you pay here? How much would your parent's pay for you to spend as much time on here as you do.

God I must sound like such a dick now... Sorry.



Aug 31 2005 11:53PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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in regards to press-releases and etc. The Armada issue was because at the show they made a specific point of the pictures not being leaked, and they were. (correct?) to my knowledge solomon, head or any company has never made the same efforts. If they were sending skis with new graphics "out" to the media or press with no expectation/agreement of secrecy and then asked the site to take down the new pictures of their skis, it would be a totally different situation.

Any company has to protect it's interests, if every company was allowed put out press releases, do market research and have in-depth discussions on products and room for improvement then why would anyone actually purchase advertising from NS?

When a company has enough cash to place full page ads in mags, and sponsor big name athletes they too have to act differently. There is no reason why any company with over a million in sales should have marketing reps/company directors conducting their business on this site. Doing so is actually called "guerilla marketing", and it's called that for a reason. McDonalds Reps would be kicked off the property of Grocery stores. I think the real value of this site for companies is having other people talk about their products! If you want get your product/company talked about, do something that the general skiing public will talk about on this site... FOR YOU!
Don't get me wrong, I think the presence of people such as kendrick and anyone directly involved in the industry is what makes this place great and better than other sport sites. But people don't conduct business on other peoples property, although we will let some kids sell chocolate covered almonds out front.


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Sep 1 2005 4:02AM
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hendrik.
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hey kendrick, if you still havent gotten the picture from my post, read that....

oh, and this guy said basicalyl what i wanted to say

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-hendrik
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Sep 1 2005 4:10AM
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shasta
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2 points:
Why shouldn't admins have opinions exactly? As has been pointed out, they are some of the most informed, intelligent (sic) members of the site, and I enjoy reading what they have to say (although I dont worship their opinions like the bible).

I do however agree with the notification of deleted posts. If mods can take the time to read and delete a post, then they can surely spare the time to inform people that their posts have been deleted. Even the stupidly retarded have the right to common courtesy.



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Sep 1 2005 5:18AM
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Sanchez
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First, we are all VERY fortunate to have a site like newschoolers.com. Many thanks go out to Harvey, Doug, Chris et al. for their hard work. This place is amazing.

However, while I do appreciate the need to try and keep this site on a certain "core" track by being selective about who does and who does not get to advertise on here, it is nevertheless troubling that a small, select group of individuals have ultimate power and control over those decisions, especially in light of the massive audience this site attracts. I am in no way criticizing the current newschoolers.com staff, I am merely raising this as an issue in principle.

For example, while I have absolutely no idea what the particular facts are surrounding the Predator situation other than the he said/she said exchange in this particular thread, I do find it troubling that if a company doesn't fit an exact "core" mould in the eyes of one person then they are basically banished or stigmatized summarily. Perhaps newschoolers.com has earned such power? Or perhaps such power needs to be reined in? Frankly, I think it will be a sad day for skiing when someone else tells me what is or is not "new school" or "freestyle" or "freeride" or "core". We could -- and have already -- debated the meanings of the above terms till we were red in the face. You know what? Not everyone agreed on what they meant. And not everyone ever will.

This sport carries a lot of history, and we need to be reminded of that history on occasion when professing to chart its future course. This site has done wonders for the sport, but like it's been said earlier in this thread, it's become pretty saturated with, unfortunately, crap. Maybe that's an unavoidable consequence of skiing's resurging popularity? Or maybe another more "core" site will pop up tomorrow? Either way, I, too, miss the good ole days of when the FREEZE and PBP forums were in their prime...




Sep 1 2005 7:15AM
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soup
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to reiterate the words of a very odd and grumpy man peter d:

"all newschoolers is is a bunch of stupid fucking nerds who sit around on there fucking computers not skiing and posting stupid shit that has fucking terrible spelling but they write it like its part of a university essay. like who the fuck cares if you can use big words its just a fucking internet site."

Yes peter d. himself said that one day when he was pissed off at a skier shit talking blue mountain.

i dont know the relevance to this topic but it seemed to kinda fit in somewhere.

oh ya and the mods havent sold out to anything they are just doing there fucking job and their job is to delete all of the stupid shit on ns and all of the stufff thats been said before.

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Sep 1 2005 9:44AM
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Odd_Job
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in response to cjgncjgn's post, i think the mods and admins should definitely post on this site. they are the ones who have given their blood sweat and tears for this site. many of these guys are the originators of this site. the point is that these guys are no different than any of us. they all ski, they all have a passion for newschooling, they all have opinions and ideas. they started this site so they could get their ideas off their chest and vent to other skiiers and see if other people felt the same way as they did. thats the beauty of this site, its a forum where everyone has a say and a voice to state their opinion, even the mods and the admins. I say that the mods and admins should post even more, i feel as if their voices have been dorwned out by the stupidity of the angry 13 yr olds on this site. so my plea to the admins and the mods, keep posting. you guys are the insiders of the indstry and we would love to hear your opinions and thoughts and ideas.

Sep 1 2005 9:51AM
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Ruski
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yeah the immature 13 year olds bother me, but i love ns, everyone fumbles every once in a while and there might be some things to work out but ns hasnt to me sold out, to me its a place to get ski info. and read some funny posts.

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Sep 1 2005 11:17AM
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TimmyP
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THE WHOLE FUCKING SKI INSUSTRY SOLDOUT A LONG TIME AGEO SO NOW I DONT GIVE A SHIT


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Sep 1 2005 4:13PM
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Ghost
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As far as predator is concerned, I've been out with alot of those guys in the past. I went out with them to a photoshoot a while back, been at their headquarters, and my best friend has ridden with them for a while. I can tell you that everyone working behind it are some of the most chill people out there.

They are in skiing for the same reasons we are; because we love it. Their products are top quality and their staff are willing to listen and change.



Sep 2 2005 3:04PM
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JTK
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and predator rears its ugly head again.



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Sep 2 2005 4:23PM
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arsenal601
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ive never had a problem with threads being deleted or edited personally. although im sure it happens, the reasons are probably the right ones.






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soup
Posts: 6343 - Karma: 4,415
the only time i get mad at deleting stuff is when pics get deleted. maybe if there is nudity but like sgogenchicks pic of her tatoos?? i dunno bout that one

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if your really hardcore you can just smoke out of your hands. make a loose fist but keep your fingers together and pack the entire empty space in the middle with herb. then open up your pinky finger enough so that the herb doesnt fall out but you can light it. then just breath in from the top hole and ull get mad respect - eastar5
Sep 2 2005 4:45PM
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bhill2.0
Posts: 6573 - Karma: 197
doug cool
cko doesnt speak
nopoles is pretty cool
all the green faggots are just simple douche cops


"i just wear the awesome 6XL stuff....its like bringing your bed to school"-MSKI SPEAKS THE TRUTH

They call me HoodRich
Sep 2 2005 5:14PM
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matthasaurusrex
Posts: 5160 - Karma: 185
i think doug/cko/paul do have respect over others. Because they are taking care of the site.

Iv heard doug not eating for a couple days because he is paying for the site!

so if it wernt them, and a couple before them, none of this would be here.

lets have a grounp hug?!

p.s. doug i liked you increase the peace signature were did it go :(

yeah, i went there
Sep 2 2005 5:21PM
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PipeMonkey
Posts: 398 - Karma: 8
I don't know how you can say Doug or Chris have sold out... but some might say Harvey sold out


I have a soul, just no remorse.
Sep 2 2005 5:28PM
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