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Subject: ON3P received demand to change name of “Great Scott”
iggyskier
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Nov 1 2009
10:00:56
This post is meant to inform anyone who has to date
purchased a “Great Scott” ski from ON3P, or those who are considering a future purchase. In late October, ON3P received a cease and
desist order from SCOTT USA Ltd., and its affiliates SCOTT Sports SA and SCOTT
USA Inc., demanding ON3P immediately cease commercialization and sales of all “Great
Scott” branded skis for reasons of
trademark infringement.
We are current exploring the legality of the use of “Scott”
in the name of our ski “Great Scott” and should reach a decision in the near
future.
Once we have reached a decision, I will post an update on
the matter.
Scott Andrus
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Nov 2 2009
6:11:34
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Klazo$ from Nov 2 2009 5:52:20:
He probably has a copyright or two in there knowing that guy.
IT'S A CONSPIRACY TO BRING DOWN THE NEWSCHOOLERS MOVEMENT, GET YOUR SPORKS!
My glowing spork of icey justice is ready sir.
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Nov 2 2009
6:18:23
Geez, iggy ... this would never have happened if your 'rents had just named you "Brad!"
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Nov 2 2009
6:23:36
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2bvrcrk from Nov 2 2009 6:18:23:
Geez, iggy ... this would never have happened if your 'rents had just named you "Brad!"
"The Great Brad"
I'm not feelin it haha
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Nov 2 2009
6:24:24
i think the "cease and desist" would be a fucking great name for a ski...if you end up changing it definitely go with that
Why cant companies realize that stuff like this just makes their potential customers mad at them?
Fuck it, Huck it
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Nov 2 2009
6:33:14
Great Brad.... i guess then you could say its a good thing hes not a Chad... I mean the Great Chad? then PM gear would say he's fuckin with the BRO model.
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Nov 2 2009
6:35:42
what assholes. scott will never receive my my business again.
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Nov 2 2009
6:36:01
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prophet from Nov 2 2009 6:33:14:
then PM gear would say he's fuckin with the BRO model.
hahahah well played
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Nov 2 2009
6:46:32
just rename it "Great Scaut".
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Nov 2 2009
6:51:34
Change the name to a symbol.
It can be "the ski formerly known as the Great Scott"
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Nov 2 2009
6:54:39
Rename it the "Cease and Desist", then steal Tom Wallisch from Scott as revenge for being ass holes.
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Nov 2 2009
6:57:24
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Klazo$ from Nov 2 2009 5:52:20:
He probably has a copyright or two in there knowing that guy.
IT'S A CONSPIRACY TO BRING DOWN THE NEWSCHOOLERS MOVEMENT, GET YOUR SPORKS!
yup, now were going to have to make our on party or something..this could be sick... I can see it now on major media news..
A group of radical skiers calling themselves Newschoolers have started riots all across the US, Canandaa and parts of eastern europe.
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Nov 2 2009
7:01:55
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mtbakerteacher from Nov 2 2009 5:24:15:
Ugh don't make me point out your logic flaws. Please. Just reread what you wrote, and think about how Scott is a company name, and the great scott is the name of a singular product.
could Liberty produce a pow ski called the Floating Armada?
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Nov 2 2009
7:05:33
WHAT THE FUCK SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 2 2009
7:08:10
Im tempted to email my uncle about the case and see what he has to say.. Hes a huge lawyer in the state of MN. Im also going to see what he has to say about the WME Level 1 law suit. Hes a defense attorney though so we'll see what he knows about trademark infrigment..
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when will there be peace in the ski industry?
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Nov 2 2009
7:20:33
And correct me if i'm wrong. But isn't the phrase "Great Scott" like a legitimate phrase? Then seriously it will not be aloud to be trademarked in any way. So Scott is double butt raping themselves here.
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Nov 2 2009
7:27:45
this thread pisses me off for a number of reasons. when WME was in the process of suing Level 1 the community on NS was pissed, and for good reason. but now when SCOTT USA does the same thing (pushes the little guy around) there is not that much action against SCOTT USA. they did just sign Tom Wallisch but that should have nothing to do with the fact that SCOTT USA is suing ON3P for a shitty reason. NS needs to put Wallisch aside and decide what is best for the tight-knit skiing community and take action.
just as i did with WME i sent a very polite email that expressed my view on the matter. and i encourage everyone to do the same. GO ON3P!!!
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Nov 2 2009
7:32:09
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GGreene$ from Nov 2 2009 7:27:45:
this thread pisses me off for a number of reasons. when WME was in the process of suing Level 1 the community on NS was pissed, and for good reason. but now when SCOTT USA does the same thing (pushes the little guy around) there is not that much action against SCOTT USA. they did just sign Tom Wallisch but that should have nothing to do with the fact that SCOTT USA is suing ON3P for a shitty reason. NS needs to put Wallisch aside and decide what is best for the tight-knit skiing community and take action. just as i did with WME i sent a very polite email that expressed my view on the matter. and i encourage everyone to do the same. GO ON3P!!!
Um...Are you blind? This thread got started when. Like yesterday night. Its on its 6th page in less than a day. I'm pretty sure we care.
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Nov 2 2009
7:34:02
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Commonwealth from Nov 2 2009 5:48:27:
He said that what iggy was saying "was BS" and that there was no such thing as a company called Scott USA Ltd., but that the real company is called Scott USA Inc. or something like that.
Basically, he said that either iggy was making it up or it was a prank. He said that he is in the HR department at Scott and none of them heard of anything. Apparently, he didn't check too hard.
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Nov 2 2009
7:40:17
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GGreene$ from Nov 2 2009 7:27:45:
this thread pisses me off for a number of reasons. when WME was in the process of suing Level 1 the community on NS was pissed, and for good reason. but now when SCOTT USA does the same thing (pushes the little guy around) there is not that much action against SCOTT USA. they did just sign Tom Wallisch but that should have nothing to do with the fact that SCOTT USA is suing ON3P for a shitty reason. NS needs to put Wallisch aside and decide what is best for the tight-knit skiing community and take action. just as i did with WME i sent a very polite email that expressed my view on the matter. and i encourage everyone to do the same. GO ON3P!!!
Although I agree with you, I can understand why it isn't blowing up like WME v. Level 1. It is just as great of a travesty though. People on this site are just not as affected by this case. I'm going to guess that more people purchase level 1 products versus scott or ON3P skis combined. (I'm just talking movie vs skis not poles or other stuff). I hate it when the big corporation bullies small companies. I have even one more reason to buy ON3P's next year. Support small companies yo!!!
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Nov 2 2009
7:53:42
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willis.$ from Nov 2 2009 7:40:17:
Although I agree with you, I can understand why it isn't blowing up like WME v. Level 1. It is just as great of a travesty though. People on this site are just not as affected by this case. I'm going to guess that more people purchase level 1 products versus scott or ON3P skis combined. (I'm just talking movie vs skis not poles or other stuff). I hate it when the big corporation bullies small companies. I have even one more reason to buy ON3P's next year. Support small companies yo!!!
That and WME wasnt as associated with newschool skiing as Scott is, I mean the article of Scott sighning wallnuts essentially came out right before this.
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Nov 2 2009
8:02:22
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TWoods from Nov 2 2009 2:40:35:
This lawsuit literally has nothing to do with Tom.nobody from ON3P feels good about even the IDEA of this hurting Tom in any way. This is 100 percent between them and Scott the company, not the riders.
who pays him then?
v/ut
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Nov 2 2009
8:03:24
i think a big thing here is to take wallisch out of the picture. kids shouldnt shape their opinions because of the signing. this is still another level 1 vs WME abomination and it should be treated as such.
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Nov 2 2009
8:12:56
im not trying to make tom look like the bad person, he just works for them. you dont think any of the money scott makes from lawsuits just like this isnt going towards the riders down the line?
i agree this is a bullshit lawsuit, it just came about at the wrong time and im sure there going to loose a few customers because of it.
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Nov 2 2009
8:51:58
I would really like to hear Tom's view on this.
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Nov 2 2009
8:55:38
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linett from Nov 2 2009 8:51:58:
I would really like to hear Tom's view on this.
This, folks, is what you call career suicide.
Fuck Scott, seriously, they should of known this backlash would happen. This bullying in the ski industry needs to stop.
If death meant just leaving the stage long enough to change costume and come back as a new character...Would you slow down? Or speed up?
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Nov 2 2009
9:00:54
IDEA! I can't find the picture, and my Photoshop skills are horrid, but someone should photoshop the photo of Wallisch wearing the shirt of a kid peeing on WME. I am not saying what you should photoshop it into, but it could be pretty epic.
If death meant just leaving the stage long enough to change costume and come back as a new character...Would you slow down? Or speed up?
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Nov 2 2009
9:03:02
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Armanzoid from Nov 2 2009 9:00:54:
IDEA! I can't find the picture, and my Photoshop skills are horrid, but someone should photoshop the photo of Wallisch wearing the shirt of a kid peeing on WME. I am not saying what you should photoshop it into, but it could be pretty epic.
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Nov 2 2009
9:05:53
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Armanzoid from Nov 2 2009 9:00:54:
IDEA! I can't find the picture, and my Photoshop skills are horrid, but someone should photoshop the photo of Wallisch wearing the shirt of a kid peeing on WME. I am not saying what you should photoshop it into, but it could be pretty epic.
Please refrain from doing this.
Wallisch has done nothing wrong here and there is absolutely no reason to drag him into the matter.
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Nov 2 2009
9:08:29
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i think the "cease and desist" would be a fucking great name for a ski...if you end up changing it definitely go with that
If they win the suit and you have to change the name, do it.
What the fuck were you doing?! One looks like a failed abortion and the other like something from chicken run. [ski-plastic]
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Nov 2 2009
9:08:53
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from Nov 2 2009 9:05:53:
Please refrain from doing this.
Wallisch has done nothing wrong here and there is absolutely no reason to drag him into the matter.
I'm not saying he did anything bad. He didn't at all actually, just shitty timing. But we all know he obviously wouldn't be for something like this. A photoshop wouldn't really fuck up an entire sponsorship I believe.
If death meant just leaving the stage long enough to change costume and come back as a new character...Would you slow down? Or speed up?
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Nov 2 2009
9:21:45
I hope ON3P comes out of this well. I hate this conflict within the industry all it does is hurt us.
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Nov 2 2009
9:23:54
OMG thats soooooooo dumb
have fun!
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Nov 2 2009
9:28:41
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Armanzoid from Nov 2 2009 9:08:53:
I'm not saying he did anything bad. He didn't at all actually, just shitty timing. But we all know he obviously wouldn't be for something like this. A photoshop wouldn't really fuck up an entire sponsorship I believe.
It wouldn't fuck up his sponsorship, but it would be poking fun at someone who is completely innocent and not a part of the matter at all.
leave Tom out of this. Nobody at ON3P thinks he should be, or wants him to be dragged into this, and I'm sure he doesn't either. If the HR(?) guy didn't know, how would he? So let's make sure it doesn't happen.
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Nov 2 2009
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TWoods from Nov 2 2009 9:28:41:
It wouldn't fuck up his sponsorship, but it would be poking fun at someone who is completely innocent and not a part of the matter at all.leave Tom out of this. Nobody at ON3P thinks he should be, or wants him to be dragged into this, and I'm sure he doesn't either. If the HR(?) guy didn't know, how would he? So let's make sure it doesn't happen.
Meh, good call. Delete my original post, I sound like an ass.
If death meant just leaving the stage long enough to change costume and come back as a new character...Would you slow down? Or speed up?
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Nov 2 2009
9:31:03
the fuck...
Supposedly the average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds. I think about skiing every 2.
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Nov 2 2009
9:36:36
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J.D.$ from Nov 1 2009 10:52:13:
Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. This is by FAR the most ridiculous. Not even close. It is FUNDAMENTAL trademark law that you can use your own proper name as a mark and Scott USA's lawyers know that. They are doing this for the SOLE PURPOSE of using their money advantage as a large multinational company to apply pressure to a smaller competitor. I don't work for on3p but I support what iggyskier is doing and NO ONE should support a company that wants to fuck with the little guy like this. This is every bit as bad as WME vs. Level 1, we are in a tight knit industry and throwing around lawsuits is not above board. I will be sending a letter to Scott USA and I encourage all of you to do likewise, just as you did with WME.
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Nov 2 2009
10:49:04
i have SCOTT poles, but i stole em...
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Nov 2 2009
11:36:23
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Klazo$ from Nov 2 2009 5:52:20:
IT'S A CONSPIRACY TO BRING DOWN THE NEWSCHOOLERS MOVEMENT, GET YOUR SPORKS!
I never thought Id see the day Id have to pull out my spork
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Nov 2 2009
11:56:10
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doublexl from Nov 2 2009 10:49:04:
i have SCOTT poles, but i stole em...
yeah i just got some new scott poles...no way i'm ditching those, they never break
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Nov 3 2009
1:36:13
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prophet from Nov 2 2009 6:33:14:
Great Brad.... i guess then you could say its a good thing hes not a Chad... I mean the Great Chad? then PM gear would say he's fuckin with the BRO model.
bahaha amazing CHAD reference yesss
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Nov 3 2009
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no_steeze
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yeah i just got some new scott poles...no way i'm ditching those, they never break
ha, I have like 3 pairs of broken scott poles, expensive one's too until I wised up.
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Nov 3 2009
9:12:19
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J.D.$ from Nov 1 2009 10:52:13:
This is by FAR the most ridiculous. Not even close. It is FUNDAMENTAL trademark law that you can use your own proper name as a mark and Scott USA's lawyers know that.
This.
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Nov 3 2009
9:54:35
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Armanzoid from Nov 2 2009 8:55:38:
Fuck Scott, seriously, they should of known this backlash would happen. This bullying in the ski industry needs to stop.
If not for the fact that this decision was probably made by some guy in an office building in central Europe who can't understand why anyone would ever want to ski backwards, I'm sure they
would have seen this coming.
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Nov 3 2009
10:12:14
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J.D.$ from Nov 3 2009 9:54:35:
If not for the fact that this decision was probably made by some guy in an office building in central Europe who can't understand why anyone would ever want to ski backwards, I'm sure they would have seen this coming.
i'd be very surprised if the decisions of Scott USA were made by anyone in europe. just so you know, the obsession with suing people is very much a pillar of CORPORATE AMERICA. thankfully this kind of mindset is not nearly so prevalent this side of the pond.
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Nov 3 2009
10:49:29
GREAT SCOTTT
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Nov 3 2009
12:47:43
^Really?! I thought iggyskier said
don't do that!
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Nov 3 2009
12:54:10
STUPID NOOB.
He said no.
Banhammer and post removed please?
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