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Subject: ON3P received demand to change name of “Great Scott”
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Nov 1 2009
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This post is meant to inform anyone who has to date
purchased a “Great Scott” ski from ON3P, or those who are considering a future purchase. In late October, ON3P received a cease and
desist order from SCOTT USA Ltd., and its affiliates SCOTT Sports SA and SCOTT
USA Inc., demanding ON3P immediately cease commercialization and sales of all “Great
Scott” branded skis for reasons of
trademark infringement.
We are current exploring the legality of the use of “Scott”
in the name of our ski “Great Scott” and should reach a decision in the near
future.
Once we have reached a decision, I will post an update on
the matter.
Scott Andrus
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Nov 2 2009
10:05:48
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shragler from Nov 2 2009 1:18:37:
Someone also said, rename it 'copyright infringement'. If you can't get out of it, this is a brilliant idea.
Or V.
What's 'great' about this is that ON3P is not really backed into a corner. Scott, the man, has options. Scott's graphics do not have the model name on them so no worries there.
Long live ON3P!
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Nov 2 2009
10:09:47
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Yeah, because ON3P is just completely making all this up, right?
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Nov 2 2009
10:10:59
I'm gonna stop buying from any corporate companies that get any press like this. ANYONE in skiing will not be getting my business after they do this, if this is true, not buying Scott anymore, I liked their gogs too...
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Nov 2 2009
10:11:05
Maybe they are making it up. I don't know. The one thing I do know is, ALL THESE DAMN LAWSUITS PISS ME OFF!
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Nov 2 2009
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First WME, now you fuckers. All you're doing is turning the ski industry into the exact opposite of what it's supposed to be, and it's pathetic. You're an embarrassment.
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Nov 2 2009
10:38:18
this can't be serious.
When i found out how cool penises are i went pretty wild.
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Nov 2 2009
10:52:52
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JAWflyer3 from Nov 1 2009 10:40:08:
guess tom wallish wont be allowed to afterbang anymore because line used that as there skis, or no one can have their suit look g, because the g suit is trademarked to salomon. this shit is ridiculous, can't people all get along?
hahaha
corporate BS sick!
I think that Universal pictures should sue too! that's a line straight from the docs mouth in back to the future. oohhhh snap.
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Nov 2 2009
11:00:42
Ok so i was reading this entire thing and was beginning to understand this. then apparently someone from scott usa comes on here and confuses the fuck out of me. SO this being said. whats the real story? I want to here directly from ON3P and Scott USA.
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Nov 2 2009
11:05:03
ON3P is totally serious and if need be can provide the documentation to prove it. But hopefully it won't come to that.
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Nov 2 2009
11:12:12
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iggyskier
from Nov 2 2009 11:05:03:
ON3P is totally serious and if need be can provide the documentation to prove it. But hopefully it won't come to that.
Is Scott serious about a lawsuit?
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Nov 2 2009
11:23:12
This is terrible but...
Have you validated the source you recieved the demand from.
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Nov 2 2009
11:34:36
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Wow, you've got some balls, buddy. Unbelievable. Yeah, I'm so sure they just made this up for no reason.
Hey Iggy, how about you scan whatever letter they sent you and we post it on the front page, right before that Wallisch article?
Emails:
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Nov 2 2009
11:42:47
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J.D.$ from Nov 2 2009 11:34:36:
Wow, you've got some balls, buddy. Unbelievable. Yeah, I'm so sure they just made this up for no reason.
Hey Iggy, how about you scan whatever letter they sent you and we post it on the front page, right before that Wallisch article?
Emails:
wintersport@scottusa.com
scott@scottusa.com
Haha not a bad idea
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Nov 2 2009
11:48:31
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J.D.$ from Nov 2 2009 11:34:36:
Wow, you've got some balls, buddy. Unbelievable. Yeah, I'm so sure they just made this up for no reason.
Hey Iggy, how about you scan whatever letter they sent you and we post it on the front page, right before that Wallisch article?
Emails:
wintersport@scottusa.com
scott@scottusa.com
Agreed
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Nov 2 2009
11:49:36
scott's the wackest company anyways. so damn classic goomba skier company.
keep on rippin on3p, you guys are killing it. i really hope this doesn't affect your production at all.
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Nov 2 2009
11:50:31
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jksl from Nov 2 2009 11:49:36:
scott's the wackest company anyways. so damn classic goomba skier company.
keep on rippin on3p, you guys are killing it. i really hope this doesn't affect your production at all.
If anything this might boost sales. Before this a lot of people probably hadn't heard of them.
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Nov 2 2009
11:50:31
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jksl from Nov 2 2009 11:49:36:
scott's the wackest company anyways. so damn classic goomba skier company.
keep on rippin on3p, you guys are killing it. i really hope this doesn't affect your production at all.
^Further proof for everyone that this guy is alive and well.
This has been a pretty fucked up couple of days in ski gabber.
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Nov 2 2009
11:51:34
just rename the skis the corporate bullshits ha, i think thatd be funny.
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Nov 2 2009
11:52:57
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B-Rent from Nov 2 2009 11:51:34:
just rename the skis the corporate bullshits ha, i think thatd be funny.
haha nice
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Nov 2 2009
11:55:40
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B-Rent from Nov 2 2009 11:51:34:
just rename the skis the corporate bullshits ha, i think thatd be funny.
except that might not work because if the name corporate was in it than theyd have to be shitty skis, and seeing as its ON3P they cant be shitty skis
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Nov 2 2009
12:01:26
I was thinking about getting a pair of Goggles from Scott this season, but fuck that (yea butt fuck). Good luck ON3P hope they drop all this non-sense.
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Nov 2 2009
12:01:33
im not a lawyer, but can they copyright ur name?
it seems pathetic. why cant you even name your skis after yourself?
scott should have learned from wme. now everybody is going to boycott scott.
go ON3P
good from far, but far from good
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Nov 2 2009
12:03:49
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J.D.$ from Nov 2 2009 11:34:36:
Wow, you've got some balls, buddy. Unbelievable. Yeah, I'm so sure they just made this up for no reason.
Hey Iggy, how about you scan whatever letter they sent you and we post it on the front page, right before that Wallisch article?
Emails:
wintersport@scottusa.com
scott@scottusa.com
Do it.
Shit sucks, hopefully its not the whole company and maybe the legal department is just getting pissy or something. Don't fuck with on3p though, there is just no good reason.
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Nov 2 2009
12:14:33
^Exactly... it's not like anyone's actually going to confuse the two ski makers. I mean the only way you can even buy the Great Scott is on the On3p website, so... are they thinking people are going to suddenly get amnesia when they log on to the site and forget what ski company's website they're on? It's just so pointless.
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Nov 2 2009
12:35:06
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J.D.$ from Nov 2 2009 12:14:33:
^Exactly... it's not like anyone's actually going to confuse the two ski makers. I mean the only way you can even buy the Great Scott is on the On3p website, so... are they thinking people are going to suddenly get amnesia when they log on to the site and forget what ski company's website they're on? It's just so pointless.
yes but thats not what its about. its about the big corporate companies keeping the little guys under their thumb. fuck you scott usa
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Nov 2 2009
12:36:12
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tlilly from Nov 2 2009 10:10:59:
I'm gonna stop buying from any corporate companies that get any press like this. ANYONE in skiing will not be getting my business after they do this, if this is true, not buying Scott anymore, I liked their gogs too...
Yeah, money corrupts.
LOL
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Nov 2 2009
12:36:17
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D.Flynn$ from Nov 2 2009 12:35:06:
yes but thats not what its about. its about the big corporate companies keeping the little guys under their thumb. fuck you scott usa
Have you read the rest of his posts?
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Nov 2 2009
12:37:24
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Since you work for SCOTT as the snowsports marketing manager, I don't think you would make something like this up.
what if someone was pranking ON3P ?
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Nov 2 2009
12:42:03
It isn't a prank.
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Nov 2 2009
12:57:46
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Why would HR have any idea if Legal had sent a cease and desist letter?
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Nov 2 2009
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Nov 2 2009
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Nov 2 2009
1:19:43
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from Nov 2 2009 1:18:18:
Who removed that post??
Not I.
Wonder if someone was back peddling and requested it be deleted?
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Nov 2 2009
1:21:13
It was removed at the request of the guy who posted it (from Scott) who apparently legitimately had no idea what was going on, he doesn't have anything to do with their legal dept.
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Nov 2 2009
1:21:34
He probably realized he was wrong and got schmuck or mac to delete it for him.
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Nov 2 2009
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Nov 2 2009
1:25:39
just more proof that wallisch is a sell out. good luck following dumonts steps.
fuck scott there poles suck anyways. rentals ftw.
v/ut
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Nov 2 2009
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just more proof that wallisch is a sell out. good luck following dumonts steps.fuck scott there poles suck anyways. rentals ftw.
Joystick poles ftw
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Nov 2 2009
1:31:44
just spell scott differently..
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Nov 2 2009
1:32:36
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East.$ from Nov 2 2009 1:31:44:
just spell scott differently..
why? its iggy's name, he shouldnt have to
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Nov 2 2009
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J.D.$ from Nov 2 2009 1:21:13:
It was removed at the request of the guy who posted it (from Scott) who apparently legitimately had no idea what was going on, he doesn't have anything to do with their legal dept.
That's legit then....if he didn't know he didn't know. People make mistakes.
Anyway that sucks about the cease and desist order for ON3P. I know the "GREAT SCOTT" is referencing an owner of ON3P and in no way related to SCOTT SKIS, but If I am not mistaken, SCOTT USA was named after Ed Scott, an engineer/ skier from Sun Valley, ID in the 50s that started making ski poles. Since Ed Scott affixed his name to poles, skis, goggles, outwear and many things ski related since the 50s, Scott USA he may have a legitimate trademark claim. By affixing his name to the product, Ed Scott did the same thing Scott Andrus did to ON3P's "Great Scott" ski. It sounds like a legit claim.
Given that you already sold many "Great Scott" skis and used that ski in your Freeskier ad, that is a huge pain in the ass for you guys. Good luck in the process and definitely keep NS posted as to what happens and what you decide to do.
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Nov 2 2009
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Get all guerrilla marketing on em and make em pay.
ON3P Cash For Clunkers:
Trade in a pair of SCOTT sticks and get 50 bones off a new pair of on3p's.
Hahahaha I
definitely think On3p would get sued for THAT.
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Nov 2 2009
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Jon63 from Nov 2 2009 12:32:49:
Points of Analogies:
1. Comedy
2. Making shitty arguments sound somewhat decent
I love #1, but am not too fond of #2, as you could probably tell.
they put arguments in perspective, not make dumb ones right
it's a perfectly valid argument not to piss of scott usa with random hate because that will only fuel the fire
i have nothing against your post, you did not do what i said, it related to ns'ers in general because we've had a rocky past with matters of ns spamming other companies/websites
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Nov 2 2009
2:00:35
its all about electric and oakley anyways
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Nov 2 2009
2:09:06
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jksl from Nov 2 2009 11:49:36:
scott's the wackest company anyways. so damn classic goomba skier company.
keep on rippin on3p, you guys are killing it. i really hope this doesn't affect your production at all.
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Nov 2 2009
2:14:22
Wow, this sounds like WME all over again. I can't believe they are suing you. Probably because they are pissed they didn't think of the great name for themselves first. I'll proudly be dissing all Scott products at the ski shop I work at this season.
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Nov 2 2009
2:30:40
Don't shoot the messenger here- In defense of Missile (Kevin Kruse, Scott USA marketing manager) Scott as a company invests a lot into our sport from the bottom up and has for a long time, and while this is a bizarre move with the C&D against ON3P, I can personally vouch for Kruse being a very good guy within the industry and he means well. Even having him in here defending his brand says something- you don't see that with many other "corporations" involved in this type of matter. Obviously these type of business practices DO NOT belong in skiing, (and hopefully this gets cleared up quickly) I just wanted to say that before everyone gets hyper-reactive and tears this guy and Scott apart.
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Nov 2 2009
2:32:58
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camsessions from Nov 2 2009 1:25:39:
just more proof that wallisch is a sell out. good luck following dumonts steps.fuck scott there poles suck anyways. rentals ftw.
It has NOTHING to do with Wallisch.
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Nov 2 2009
2:35:04
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pretzels from Nov 2 2009 1:33:11:
That's legit then....if he didn't know he didn't know. People make mistakes.
Anyway that sucks about the cease and desist order for ON3P. I know the "GREAT SCOTT" is referencing an owner of ON3P and in no way related to SCOTT SKIS, but If I am not mistaken, SCOTT USA was named after Ed Scott, an engineer/ skier from Sun Valley, ID in the 50s that started making ski poles. Since Ed Scott affixed his name to poles, skis, goggles, outwear and many things ski related since the 50s, Scott USA he may have a legitimate trademark claim. By affixing his name to the product, Ed Scott did the same thing Scott Andrus did to ON3P's "Great Scott" ski. It sounds like a legit claim.
Given that you already sold many "Great Scott" skis and used that ski in your Freeskier ad, that is a huge pain in the ass for you guys. Good luck in the process and definitely keep NS posted as to what happens and what you decide to do.
It doesn't sound like a legit claim at all.
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