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Subject: ON3P received demand to change name of “Great Scott”
iggyskierUltimate Bling!
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Nov 1 2009
10:00:56

This post is meant to inform anyone who has to date purchased a “Great Scott” ski from ON3P, or those who are considering a future purchase.  In late October, ON3P received a cease and desist order from SCOTT USA Ltd., and its affiliates SCOTT Sports SA and SCOTT USA Inc., demanding ON3P immediately cease commercialization and sales of all “Great Scott” branded skis for reasons of  trademark infringement. 

We are current exploring the legality of the use of “Scott” in the name of our ski “Great Scott” and should reach a decision in the near future.

Once we have reached a decision, I will post an update on the matter.

Scott Andrus

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Nov 1 2009
10:01:41
please tell me this is a joke...
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Nov 1 2009
10:02:02
Ridiculous
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Nov 1 2009
10:02:43
Why???

They are just butt hurt that your skis are sicker.
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Nov 1 2009
10:04:40
Just rename it "Draft Dodger"
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Nov 1 2009
10:04:50
wow wtf? i hope this doesnt turn into a huge thing like level 1 and wme
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Nov 1 2009
10:05:30
wtf, thats retarded
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Nov 1 2009
10:05:37
wow thats dumb.


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Nov 1 2009
10:06:48
fuck em.

all this corporate bullshit that has been hapening lately has got to stop
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Nov 1 2009
10:07:23
Copyright lawsuits are such bs
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Nov 1 2009
10:07:52
Wow... lame.
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Nov 1 2009
10:08:21
just rename them the Vs
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Nov 1 2009
10:08:33
did they ask you to change your name too?


theangrytomato
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Nov 1 2009
10:08:55
Does this mean that Scott can sue all this now? I mean, they used Scott in their name somewhere, and if Scott owns the word Scott, then they cant use it. Wait - shit, can they sue me now too?
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Nov 1 2009
10:09:54
Quoting burtski from Nov 1 2009 10:08:21:
just rename them the Vs
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Nov 1 2009
10:10:14
Quoting burtski from Nov 1 2009 10:08:21:
just rename them the Vs
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Nov 1 2009
10:13:13
Quoting tehking$ from Nov 1 2009 10:08:33:
did they ask you to change your name too?
Ha, this.
couldn't you say that it is named after you...i swear they cant do anything then.
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Nov 1 2009
10:13:37
Quoting burtski from Nov 1 2009 10:08:21:
just rename them the Vs
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Nov 1 2009
10:14:06
wow. on3p is still the brand. the name of the ski is Great Scott. so if any ski ever made has a word of another company they can call infringement on it. well fuck thats retarded. Screw Scott USA
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Nov 1 2009
10:14:20
this shit is getting out of control.
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Nov 1 2009
10:15:27
what the fuck? theres about a million other things named scott im sure...
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Nov 1 2009
10:18:25
Poor form Scott. Just when you were about to increase sales tenfold by signing Wallisch, you have to go and do this..

And for most of you saying that it's ridiculous, this is probably the least ridiculous of the copyright infringement lawsuits of recent (WME and Hansen) because Scott is in the ski making business with ON3P and ON3P will be making a profit on the skis.

I'm definitely no lawyer, but I'd say that this, unfortunately, could be a valid lawsuit.
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Nov 1 2009
10:18:25
I guess I am boycotting Scott.

too bad they just got T-wall, that will make this a lot harder.
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Nov 1 2009
10:20:33
woops bad move scott.

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Nov 1 2009
10:21:26
so many petty lawsuits.  sorry ON3P.  great scott is a pretty baddass name though.
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Nov 1 2009
10:25:30
that's fucked
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Nov 1 2009
10:26:40
what the fuck? the great scott is named after the owner/founder of on3p and has no relation to the scott ski company.

that is the stupidest thing tey could do after officially posting that tom has signed on the team.
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Nov 1 2009
10:27:10

that's bullshit, you're clearly using "Great Scott" in reference to your name. That's like Scott Trade or Scott's Landscape suing the Scott Brand....corporate america

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Nov 1 2009
10:27:13
scott can go suck t-walls dick!
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Nov 1 2009
10:28:54
what the fuck!? i wonder if wallisch is going to get a shirt made with a kid peeing on scott.
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Nov 1 2009
10:29:43
Well there goes Scotts chance of selling me anything.
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Nov 1 2009
10:29:57
Quoting CC_steeze from Nov 1 2009 10:15:27:
what the fuck? theres about a million other things named scott im sure...
scott towels? they should sue them too.
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Nov 1 2009
10:30:00
ugh. not again.
Damn lawsuits.
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Nov 1 2009
10:32:42
Change it to "Scot" with one T and throw some tartan in that graphic.
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Nov 1 2009
10:33:23
Quoting MalcolmUltimate Bling! from Nov 1 2009 10:29:57:
scott towels? they should sue them too.
bahaha, and you shouldn't be able to name your kid Scott.  Shit, I'm fucked too because of the store "Marshalls"
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Nov 1 2009
10:34:58
reedickoluse, shits getting crazy in the skiing community with large corporations trying to dick all over smaller companies. Scott blows dogs for quarters
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Nov 1 2009
10:39:01
Quoting Marshall. from Nov 1 2009 10:29:43:
Well there goes Scotts chance of selling me anything.
 
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Nov 1 2009
10:40:08
guess tom wallish wont be allowed to afterbang anymore because line used that as there skis, or no one can have their suit look g, because the g suit is trademarked to salomon.

this shit is ridiculous, can't people all get along?
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Nov 1 2009
10:42:11
That's so lame Scott,

whatever the name is, the ski will still be great.
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Nov 1 2009
10:45:14
Quoting Marshall. from Nov 1 2009 10:29:43:
Well there goes Scotts chance of selling me anything.
word. like ON3p is gonna take all scotts sales. corporate bullying over this kind of petty stuff really does have to stop. they just signed the biggest trend setter in skiing, and were guaranteed to boost sales hardcore, and then they did this. didnt they learn anything from WME?
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Nov 1 2009
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Nov 1 2009
10:47:32
Naming a product and having that name not be trademarked, copyrighted or whatever by any one is IMPOSSIBLE! Good luck ON3P.
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Nov 1 2009
10:47:42
OH MAI GAWD TOM WALLISCH HATEZ ON3P!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 1 2009
10:49:04
Poor move by Scott but it was likely a decision by its attorneys performing typical trademark enforcement.

Scott does not have a strong claim for TM infringement. Scott does hold the rights to the name "Scott" on a number of products, including skis.  However the name "Scott" is not being used alone, it's being used with "great."  Thus, the question becomes whether or not "great scott" is confusingly similar to the "scott" mark.  Most likely not.  "Great scott" is a phrase used in regular conversation and a reasonable person would not confuse it with the scott mark.  That great scott is a common phrase weighs strongly against scott's claim.
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Nov 1 2009
10:49:21
Quoting CTD from Nov 1 2009 10:45:14:
word. like ON3p is gonna take all scotts sales. corporate bullying over this kind of petty stuff really does have to stop. they just signed the biggest trend setter in skiing, and were guaranteed to boost sales hardcore, and then they did this. didnt they learn anything from WME?
Ya for real.  Lawsuits are so HAAAAAWT right now.  If you can't beat em, sue em.
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Nov 1 2009
10:49:28
Quoting Marshall. from Nov 1 2009 10:29:43:
Well there goes Scotts chance of selling me anything.
 
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Nov 1 2009
10:50:41
Quoting five4ty from Nov 1 2009 10:49:04:
Poor move by Scott but it was likely a decision by its attorneys performing typical trademark enforcement.

Scott does not have a strong claim for TM infringement. Scott does hold the rights to the name "Scott" on a number of products, including skis.  However the name "Scott" is not being used alone, it's being used with "great."  Thus, the question becomes whether or not "great scott" is confusingly similar to the "scott" mark.  Most likely not.  "Great scott" is a phrase used in regular conversation and a reasonable person would not confuse it with the scott mark.  That great scott is a common phrase weighs strongly against scott's claim.
As much as this annoys me, I entirely agree!
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Nov 1 2009
10:50:44
Rename it "Great Shot"


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Nov 1 2009
10:51:39
Quoting factory81 from Nov 1 2009 10:50:44:
Rename it "Great Shot"
No, don't rename it. Scott should just pull their heads out of their asses.
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Nov 1 2009
10:52:13
Quoting Commonwealth from Nov 1 2009 10:18:25:
And for most of you saying that it's ridiculous, this is probably the least ridiculous of the copyright infringement lawsuits of recent (WME and Hansen) because Scott is in the ski making business with ON3P and ON3P will be making a profit on the skis.
Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. This is by FAR the most ridiculous. Not even close. It is FUNDAMENTAL trademark law that you can use your own proper name as a mark and Scott USA's lawyers know that. They are doing this for the SOLE PURPOSE of using their money advantage as a large multinational company to apply pressure to a smaller competitor. I don't work for on3p but I support what iggyskier is doing and NO ONE should support a company that wants to fuck with the little guy like this. This is every bit as bad as WME vs. Level 1, we are in a tight knit industry and throwing around lawsuits is not above board. I will be sending a letter to Scott USA and I encourage all of you to do likewise, just as you did with WME.
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