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And we would have to wait 13 billion years for a response from someone 13 billion light years away, there are much closer planets than that.
Actually a lot of astrophysicists think that the universe is a bubble and slightly curved.
Its like being a 2d creature on a mobius strip. you walk in a perfectly straight line but eventually you get back to where you started. So the universe has no boundaries which is impossible for our mind to comprehend because like the 2d creature time is linear in our minds. We lack the ability to see the 4th dimension, time, as a curvy bending plane.
So if I was in a space ship traveling in a straight line and I got to the end of matter time would stop. and it would only continue when I started traveling back where I came from. So to me I would still be on a straight line course but actually I would be going straight back where I started.
It's hard to explain because it is impossible to explain. I lack the ability to visualize this because our 4 dimensional brains do not have the capacity, so I can only use vague metaphors and analogies. So the question that everyone asks is "what is after space?" or some variation of that. And the answer most likely is; "You lack the ability to understand the answer."
All that I have know on this topic comes from reading books like hyperspace and visions of the impossible by Kaku, and hawkings and a few other book. I am in no way an expert and my take on what they said could be incorrect. I have reread entire pages multiple times and still not understood what they were saying. So I am not trying to argue just highlight theories that I have heard and somewhat understand.
And as I said above the bubbles are not "touching" in terms of physically touching as marbles in a jar would be touching. They are touching in the 5th or 6th or 7th dimension, a plane in which we can not comprehend. So maybe a class 3 society could travel between universes but this is way above our level of understanding and technology. A black hole might take you to another universe but again we don't know.
BTW props for the OP, def some awesome imagery.
Try this for example: Think about NOTHING. You'll either be thinking about a complete black or a complete white, which for instance arn't nothing! Its impossible to see nothing because we've never seen it, let alone experienced it. The sky is always black etc....
So apply that to other life forms and you've basically got your point: that there might be lifeforms that thrive on things completely different than what we think life should have to appear. And other intelligence that wouldn't be comprehensible with our. Intelligence so different we wouldn't probably percieve it as intelligence, because we wouldn't notice anything.
I think a lot of people in this tread would benefit from reading a little non fiction. It will help you to focus your imagination and have a better idea of the universe.
And to this kid I am quoting, you tear a kid down then you offer nothing. -K for you.
Did you read Visions by Kaku? A lot of the stuff he said in that has come true. Pretty smart guy, shameless self promoter, but he can back it up.
btw your karma has been restored.
I could have stated this wrong considering I am only an armchair sepculator at present, but reading into this stuff will only make you more prepared for college coursework.
To Tasche, if you mean Kaku's physics of the impossible , yea i read that one. Was pretty cool, Brian Greene's the Elegant Universe is really cool too but somewhat more involved in the physics.
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Quoting Half-Blood
from Oct 18 2009 5:09:24:
Yes we are seeing 13 billion light years away but we are also looking into the past... 800 million years into the past. If there are other lifeforms I doubt that their technology was as advanced as ours is right now 800 million years ago. So if in that part of the universe there is a civilization as advanced as ours right now we would not know for another 800 million years.
correction from Oct 18 2009 5:09:24:Yes we are seeing 13 billion light years away but we are also looking into the past... 800 million years into the past. If there are other lifeforms I doubt that their technology was as advanced as ours is right now 800 million years ago. So if in that part of the universe there is a civilization as advanced as ours right now we would not know for another 800 million years.
we wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
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Quoting debrickshaw from Oct 19 2009 5:55:42:
correctionwe wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
although the speed of life is pretty fast, I think you are referring to the speed of light.
correctionwe wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
And we would have to wait 13 billion years for a response from someone 13 billion light years away, there are much closer planets than that.
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Quoting pancake from Oct 19 2009 5:54:11:
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but current theories say that there is an end to the universe, meaning no matter exists beyond its boundaries. however, it is said that the universe is expanding into the space outside of it, so i wouldn't say that there's a wall; it's just empty and at absolute 0 kelvin beyond the boundaries of the universe. edwin hubble and other scientists have come up with explanations of cosmological red shift that describe mathematically the drifting apart of galaxies and the expansion of the universe, and it's over my head but has to do with frequencie's of color as well.
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but current theories say that there is an end to the universe, meaning no matter exists beyond its boundaries. however, it is said that the universe is expanding into the space outside of it, so i wouldn't say that there's a wall; it's just empty and at absolute 0 kelvin beyond the boundaries of the universe. edwin hubble and other scientists have come up with explanations of cosmological red shift that describe mathematically the drifting apart of galaxies and the expansion of the universe, and it's over my head but has to do with frequencie's of color as well.
yes, however, think of that space at 0k, just think of it. where are its boundries. that what im getting to. even when you get past the universe that is able to maintain live and matter, there still is space, that doesnt have matter, but really does. the molecular theory is something really hard to wrap your mind around. Space for a fact is infinite. Matter may not be, but space is. Try thinking of it this way:
think of a call of duty map(if you ever played it). when you can zoom out..aka free cam mode in multiplayer, you see a box. Let that box represent the entire universe(if indeed we are believing that the universe has boundaries). Look at the space around that box....do we really consider that nothing? or do we still consider that space. If in fact that that space were actually at 0k, where no matter can exist, it still has "matter" because its space. that may sound confusing but just try and think about it.
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^^ that last line was pretty epic. +k for that
I agree we are fairly insignificant as we sit now. The main problem with us is that we are still toiling around in vehicles that use fermented organic vegetation. We are no where near the ability to convert mass to raw energy such as using the moons orbital momentum to pull a coiled cable through the sphere of magnetic waves surrounding our planet. Not only this but we use a tiny fraction of the solar energy available to our planet.
Couple this with the fact that 95% of our worlds population doesn't even realize that scientists have nigh on completely nailed down the human genome. This is not to mention that within the next couple of decades, we will be opportunistically capable of living a life of perpetual health and vitality. The sad fact is that science is advancing at an increasing rate and only those of us with the foresight to sift through popular media's lackluster coverage of this asymptotic technological rise will be able to get on the bus.
Another thing I believe is that the US will be divorced from these breakthroughs should its populace continue to embrace parasitic drains on society such as war and corporate media. We are approaching a massive technological restructuring and this will become clear to all when the current economic model is unable to adapt to the increasing energy demand.
A good way for people to start making a change for the better is first, realizing that the political world need not spin as it always has. People should be able to embrace transhuman culture and tradionalists should be able to adopt technological breakthroughs as well as carry out a finite existence. Every sentient intelligence should be able to make this choice and work towards the betterment of all society. ethical reforms and statutes should be made and both economical and political models should be redesigned dynamically. These listed tasks would be a good place for human kind to start. The roiled politcal arena may not allow it at present but this is what people must push towards.
I agree we are fairly insignificant as we sit now. The main problem with us is that we are still toiling around in vehicles that use fermented organic vegetation. We are no where near the ability to convert mass to raw energy such as using the moons orbital momentum to pull a coiled cable through the sphere of magnetic waves surrounding our planet. Not only this but we use a tiny fraction of the solar energy available to our planet.
Couple this with the fact that 95% of our worlds population doesn't even realize that scientists have nigh on completely nailed down the human genome. This is not to mention that within the next couple of decades, we will be opportunistically capable of living a life of perpetual health and vitality. The sad fact is that science is advancing at an increasing rate and only those of us with the foresight to sift through popular media's lackluster coverage of this asymptotic technological rise will be able to get on the bus.
Another thing I believe is that the US will be divorced from these breakthroughs should its populace continue to embrace parasitic drains on society such as war and corporate media. We are approaching a massive technological restructuring and this will become clear to all when the current economic model is unable to adapt to the increasing energy demand.
A good way for people to start making a change for the better is first, realizing that the political world need not spin as it always has. People should be able to embrace transhuman culture and tradionalists should be able to adopt technological breakthroughs as well as carry out a finite existence. Every sentient intelligence should be able to make this choice and work towards the betterment of all society. ethical reforms and statutes should be made and both economical and political models should be redesigned dynamically. These listed tasks would be a good place for human kind to start. The roiled politcal arena may not allow it at present but this is what people must push towards.
Quoting [j]iberish from Oct 19 2009 6:09:26:
yes, however, think of that space at 0k, just think of it. where are its boundries. that what im getting to. even when you get past the universe that is able to maintain live and matter, there still is space, that doesnt have matter, but really does. the molecular theory is something really hard to wrap your mind around. Space for a fact is infinite. Matter may not be, but space is. Try thinking of it this way:
think of a call of duty map(if you ever played it). when you can zoom out..aka free cam mode in multiplayer, you see a box. Let that box represent the entire universe(if indeed we are believing that the universe has boundaries). Look at the space around that box....do we really consider that nothing? or do we still consider that space. If in fact that that space were actually at 0k, where no matter can exist, it still has "matter" because its space. that may sound confusing but just try and think about it.
haha liked the video game analogy.
yes, however, think of that space at 0k, just think of it. where are its boundries. that what im getting to. even when you get past the universe that is able to maintain live and matter, there still is space, that doesnt have matter, but really does. the molecular theory is something really hard to wrap your mind around. Space for a fact is infinite. Matter may not be, but space is. Try thinking of it this way:
think of a call of duty map(if you ever played it). when you can zoom out..aka free cam mode in multiplayer, you see a box. Let that box represent the entire universe(if indeed we are believing that the universe has boundaries). Look at the space around that box....do we really consider that nothing? or do we still consider that space. If in fact that that space were actually at 0k, where no matter can exist, it still has "matter" because its space. that may sound confusing but just try and think about it.
Actually a lot of astrophysicists think that the universe is a bubble and slightly curved.
Its like being a 2d creature on a mobius strip. you walk in a perfectly straight line but eventually you get back to where you started. So the universe has no boundaries which is impossible for our mind to comprehend because like the 2d creature time is linear in our minds. We lack the ability to see the 4th dimension, time, as a curvy bending plane.
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Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 6:06:02:
although the speed of life is pretty fast, I think you are referring to the speed of light.
And we would have to wait 13 billion years for a response from someone 13 billion light years away, there are much closer planets than that.
this is my thread because everything about this fascinates me. we try and think of the speed of light. the speed of light is about 671 million miles per hour. In that case.....by the time the light from the sun to reach us is about 8 minutes. So when we see the sunrise, we are actually seeing the sun, in the spot it was 8 minutes than it actually is in the moment. so now...when you looked at the pic, you saw how far away the things are...so now when you see how actually far these "things" are from us, its easy to put it perspectively, but not mentally, mathematically, scientifically. although the speed of life is pretty fast, I think you are referring to the speed of light.
And we would have to wait 13 billion years for a response from someone 13 billion light years away, there are much closer planets than that.
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I have no clue about any of this stuff. Just can't wrap my mind around it. I find it super fascinating, though. But, think of how cool that picture in the OP would be as a children's book. Just saying
Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 6:14:58:
haha liked the video game analogy.
Actually a lot of astrophysicists think that the universe is a bubble and slightly curved.
Its like being a 2d creature on a mobius strip. you walk in a perfectly straight line but eventually you get back to where you started. So the universe has no boundaries which is impossible for our mind to comprehend because like the 2d creature time is linear in our minds. We lack the ability to see the 4th dimension, time, as a curvy bending plane.
haha liked the video game analogy.
Actually a lot of astrophysicists think that the universe is a bubble and slightly curved.
Its like being a 2d creature on a mobius strip. you walk in a perfectly straight line but eventually you get back to where you started. So the universe has no boundaries which is impossible for our mind to comprehend because like the 2d creature time is linear in our minds. We lack the ability to see the 4th dimension, time, as a curvy bending plane.
getting back to where you started...mhm....sounds just like something that could be realistic. let me take this matter into perspective with reference to games ect.
think of that theory in the way, you get back to where you started. think of it as a ball. think of the ENTIREEEE universe in a ball. put that ball into the middle of a black box. what would you call the area around the ball. the universe cant float on nothing. The universe may be circular, and you get back wherever you started(considering that that theory is in fact true), then that space around the area of the universe, has to also be contained of matter in order to exist. but then we get to the other theory that nothing can exist when you reach 0k because molecules stop moving. so what in fact would be call that matter around the universe? we can't call it "nothing' because it actually still exists. see where im getting.
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Quoting [j]iberish from Oct 19 2009 6:38:40:
getting back to where you started...mhm....sounds just like something that could be realistic. let me take this matter into perspective with reference to games ect.
think of that theory in the way, you get back to where you started. think of it as a ball. think of the ENTIREEEE universe in a ball. put that ball into the middle of a black box. what would you call the area around the ball. the universe cant float on nothing. The universe may be circular, and you get back wherever you started(considering that that theory is in fact true), then that space around the area of the universe, has to also be contained of matter in order to exist. but then we get to the other theory that nothing can exist when you reach 0k because molecules stop moving. so what in fact would be call that matter around the universe? we can't call it "nothing' because it actually still exists. see where im getting.
I see where you are going but in the theory I am explaining there is no box because nothing exist outside it thus the analogy is not correct. With the complete lack of energy and force there is no time, so in an environment where time does not exist matter does not exist so nothing exists.
getting back to where you started...mhm....sounds just like something that could be realistic. let me take this matter into perspective with reference to games ect.
think of that theory in the way, you get back to where you started. think of it as a ball. think of the ENTIREEEE universe in a ball. put that ball into the middle of a black box. what would you call the area around the ball. the universe cant float on nothing. The universe may be circular, and you get back wherever you started(considering that that theory is in fact true), then that space around the area of the universe, has to also be contained of matter in order to exist. but then we get to the other theory that nothing can exist when you reach 0k because molecules stop moving. so what in fact would be call that matter around the universe? we can't call it "nothing' because it actually still exists. see where im getting.
So if I was in a space ship traveling in a straight line and I got to the end of matter time would stop. and it would only continue when I started traveling back where I came from. So to me I would still be on a straight line course but actually I would be going straight back where I started.
It's hard to explain because it is impossible to explain. I lack the ability to visualize this because our 4 dimensional brains do not have the capacity, so I can only use vague metaphors and analogies. So the question that everyone asks is "what is after space?" or some variation of that. And the answer most likely is; "You lack the ability to understand the answer."
All that I have know on this topic comes from reading books like hyperspace and visions of the impossible by Kaku, and hawkings and a few other book. I am in no way an expert and my take on what they said could be incorrect. I have reread entire pages multiple times and still not understood what they were saying. So I am not trying to argue just highlight theories that I have heard and somewhat understand.
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so basically our universe is a bubble. And there are parallel universe bubbles all sitting next to each other. (of course they are not next to each other because there is no frame of reference that we can understand for a simultaneous event happening on another universe.) like soap bubbles and so there is no empty space there is infinite universes.
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I like that you think about these principles. I believe getting other people interested in their future or that of the universe is a good thing because we are moving into an age where these studies actually matter.
Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 6:55:45:
I see where you are going but in the theory I am explaining there is no box because nothing exist outside it thus the analogy is not correct. With the complete lack of energy and force there is no time, so in an environment where time does not exist matter does not exist so nothing exists.
So if I was in a space ship traveling in a straight line and I got to the end of matter time would stop. and it would only continue when I started traveling back where I came from. So to me I would still be on a straight line course but actually I would be going straight back where I started.
It's hard to explain because it is impossible to explain. I lack the ability to visualize this because our 4 dimensional brains do not have the capacity, so I can only use vague metaphors and analogies. So the question that everyone asks is "what is after space?" or some variation of that. And the answer most likely is; "You lack the ability to understand the answer."
All that I have know on this topic comes from reading books like hyperspace and visions of the impossible by Kaku, and hawkings and a few other book. I am in no way an expert and my take on what they said could be incorrect. I have reread entire pages multiple times and still not understood what they were saying. So I am not trying to argue just highlight theories that I have heard and somewhat understand.
yea, its hard to try and wrap your mind around but im getting to where your coming from. just time is counted from 0k, and if in theory the matter around the universe is 0k, absoulute 0, then there is time. but we can only get to 0k, and its the lowest temp. we've gotten to on earth/measured. To add on to your theory, we have only measured to 0k. If ever we get a temperature below 0k, everything in the system of t would change, therefor yet no matter what, there would be time, because we have only gotten to 0k. I see where you are going but in the theory I am explaining there is no box because nothing exist outside it thus the analogy is not correct. With the complete lack of energy and force there is no time, so in an environment where time does not exist matter does not exist so nothing exists.
So if I was in a space ship traveling in a straight line and I got to the end of matter time would stop. and it would only continue when I started traveling back where I came from. So to me I would still be on a straight line course but actually I would be going straight back where I started.
It's hard to explain because it is impossible to explain. I lack the ability to visualize this because our 4 dimensional brains do not have the capacity, so I can only use vague metaphors and analogies. So the question that everyone asks is "what is after space?" or some variation of that. And the answer most likely is; "You lack the ability to understand the answer."
All that I have know on this topic comes from reading books like hyperspace and visions of the impossible by Kaku, and hawkings and a few other book. I am in no way an expert and my take on what they said could be incorrect. I have reread entire pages multiple times and still not understood what they were saying. So I am not trying to argue just highlight theories that I have heard and somewhat understand.
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Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 6:58:30:
so basically our universe is a bubble. And there are parallel universe bubbles all sitting next to each other. (of course they are not next to each other because there is no frame of reference that we can understand for a simultaneous event happening on another universe.) like soap bubbles and so there is no empty space there is infinite universes.
so going with your theory here, if the bubbles were next to each other, we would never be able to get from universe to universe considering we get back to where we started. technically in those terms we are trapped in a bubble we cant escape aka our universe so basically our universe is a bubble. And there are parallel universe bubbles all sitting next to each other. (of course they are not next to each other because there is no frame of reference that we can understand for a simultaneous event happening on another universe.) like soap bubbles and so there is no empty space there is infinite universes.
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Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 6:55:45:
I see where you are going but in the theory I am explaining there is no box because nothing exist outside it thus the analogy is not correct. With the complete lack of energy and force there is no time, so in an environment where time does not exist matter does not exist so nothing exists.
my thoughts exactly. I see where you are going but in the theory I am explaining there is no box because nothing exist outside it thus the analogy is not correct. With the complete lack of energy and force there is no time, so in an environment where time does not exist matter does not exist so nothing exists.
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Quoting pancake from Oct 19 2009 7:18:24:
my thoughts exactly.
i didnt mean it as box that space ends. i meant consider the box as never ending. sorry. i put it in wrong words. my thoughts exactly.
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Quoting [j]iberish from Oct 19 2009 7:11:45:
so going with your theory here, if the bubbles were next to each other, we would never be able to get from universe to universe considering we get back to where we started. technically in those terms we are trapped in a bubble we cant escape aka our universe
not my theory, Most of what I have said here is my interpretation of Kaku.
so going with your theory here, if the bubbles were next to each other, we would never be able to get from universe to universe considering we get back to where we started. technically in those terms we are trapped in a bubble we cant escape aka our universe
And as I said above the bubbles are not "touching" in terms of physically touching as marbles in a jar would be touching. They are touching in the 5th or 6th or 7th dimension, a plane in which we can not comprehend. So maybe a class 3 society could travel between universes but this is way above our level of understanding and technology. A black hole might take you to another universe but again we don't know.
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Quoting [j]iberish from Oct 19 2009 7:22:03:
i didnt mean it as box that space ends. i meant consider the box as never ending. sorry. i put it in wrong words.
no i mean i understand what you're saying. i still agree with what Tasche was saying though. it makes more sense to me. not that any of it is easy to grasp though lol i didnt mean it as box that space ends. i meant consider the box as never ending. sorry. i put it in wrong words.
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Quoting Tasche from Oct 19 2009 7:22:46:
not my theory, Most of what I have said here is my interpretation of Kaku.
And as I said above the bubbles are not "touching" in terms of physically touching as marbles in a jar would be touching. They are touching in the 5th or 6th or 7th dimension, a plane in which we can not comprehend. So maybe a class 3 society could travel between universes but this is way above our level of understanding and technology. A black hole might take you to another universe but again we don't know.
not my theory, Most of what I have said here is my interpretation of Kaku.
And as I said above the bubbles are not "touching" in terms of physically touching as marbles in a jar would be touching. They are touching in the 5th or 6th or 7th dimension, a plane in which we can not comprehend. So maybe a class 3 society could travel between universes but this is way above our level of understanding and technology. A black hole might take you to another universe but again we don't know.
yea i know its not your theory but when i refer to "your theory", im referring to what you said. ahah sorry for the confusion. yea, but my point with them touching, i know theyre not physically touching, but in the theory kaku has, about the universe being spherical and linear, then theres no way of getting out of the universe. its like an internal gravitational force on the outer part of the universe, holding you back from leavin. if i were able to make diagrams i would, but i cant and it would be easier to explain.
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Quoting pancake from Oct 19 2009 7:27:16:
no i mean i understand what you're saying. i still agree with what Tasche was saying though. it makes more sense to me. not that any of it is easy to grasp though lol
yea understandable. no i mean i understand what you're saying. i still agree with what Tasche was saying though. it makes more sense to me. not that any of it is easy to grasp though lol
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Quoting fsscott$ from Oct 19 2009 7:33:45:
repostmade a thread about this a while back
This comes up every month or so. I know I have responded in at least 5 of these threads and started a few myself. It is good to revisit this topic every once in a while because theories change. After 3 pages of discussion there is really no need for th repost comment but if you can find your thread you should bump it. repostmade a thread about this a while back
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Holy shit. This thread just opened up so many doors in my mind. If there are any life forms out there, they have no clue we exist and we have no clue they exist because as of right now nothing moves faster than the speed of light. That is incredible. Billions of years from now, other life forms may watch the world come together. Fuck yes, this is so awesome. The idea about us being an atom in a life form is a good idea. That is actually extremely believable too. I love and hate thinking about this. If the universe carries on forever, there is no end. What the hell? There must be so many other life forms out there. How can you think not?
Here is a video to try and explain some of this stuff to people. It is very good
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Quoting pancake from Oct 19 2009 5:54:11:
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but current theories say that there is an end to the universe
nancy pelosi's vaginasomeone correct me if i'm wrong, but current theories say that there is an end to the universe
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Quoting kepler.$ from Oct 18 2009 3:01:16:
I love things like this. Makes you wonder how people have the audacity to say there isn't life out there.
definately. we know a lot about the universe, and a lot about humans and other life forms on earth. but just to say "we looked and couldn't find anything" definately doesn't mean there's nothing there. sooo hard to wrap your mind around it!! earth is fucking TINY I love things like this. Makes you wonder how people have the audacity to say there isn't life out there.
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Quoting Sierra_Steeze from Oct 20 2009 1:36:30:
Holy shit. This thread just opened up so many doors in my mind. If there are any life forms out there, they have no clue we exist and we have no clue they exist because as of right now nothing moves faster than the speed of light. That is incredible. Billions of years from now, other life forms may watch the world come together. Fuck yes, this is so awesome. The idea about us being an atom in a life form is a good idea. That is actually extremely believable too. I love and hate thinking about this. If the universe carries on forever, there is no end. What the hell? There must be so many other life forms out there. How can you think not?
i might be rediculously off about this butttt... alright you say like "they have no clue we exist" because nothing can travel faster than light.. but maybe uhh say someone else.. on a place far away lol. was looking here to see us.. but! they did this what would be to us millions and millions and millions of years "one light year" ago.. when like earth didnt even exist... but technically.. by the time they can actually see here we would be here already.. they would have to have some instrument that could see light years at a time..but realistically if another form of life had the technology to see here and they could keep this like "open" i guess they could be watching.. they would also have to be around on their planet for a very very long time and not go extinct already.. i guess one thing i was trying to say is they are looking like for us in the past but for them they see the present.. from Oct 20 2009 1:36:30:Holy shit. This thread just opened up so many doors in my mind. If there are any life forms out there, they have no clue we exist and we have no clue they exist because as of right now nothing moves faster than the speed of light. That is incredible. Billions of years from now, other life forms may watch the world come together. Fuck yes, this is so awesome. The idea about us being an atom in a life form is a good idea. That is actually extremely believable too. I love and hate thinking about this. If the universe carries on forever, there is no end. What the hell? There must be so many other life forms out there. How can you think not?
idk if i really just said what i was trying to or not ...somebody read that and try to make some sense of it.. its hard as shit to explain when you think of this shit hahaha
this is just too much for humans to think about, there is no possible way we are even close to understanding the universe. the extremely small amount that we do understand is mind blowing enough. everything we think we know about science physics and the universe could all be completely wrong.
there are basically an infinite amount of galaxy's out there, with billions of planets in each, and we are one planet out of billions in an infinite amount of galaxy's. and we cant even reach our nearest galaxy. we can hardly even make it to out little moon, we arent even close to being able to put humans on another planet yet. there are so many possibilities, actually an infinite amount of possibilities, for everything.
you can literally think of anything you want and there is an extremely good chance that somewhere it exists. an exact replica of me probably exists somewhere in the universe. there are probably organisms out there that are so sexually attractive to us that it would make out dicks explode. maybe organisms that can run thousands of miles per hour. living creatures the size of our planet. theres probably a subsance out there that would allow us to live for thousands of years, there are probably socities that have perfected time travel and can go back in time and hang out with themselves.
maybe there are aliens who are visiting us right now, living with us who are invisible to us because they are made up of a substance that only exists trillions and trillions of light years away from us that our eyes cant process and out bodies cant feel and we just pass through eachother, or maybe there is a whole nother earth within our earth that we cant see touch or be effected by us at all because of what its made of. a whole new landscape mixed with ours, like i may be sitting down where someone else is right now but i have no idea about it. there is probably a speed millions of times faster than light, that people can travel, we cant say its not possible because we are dumb as fuck, we basically have 0 intelegence at all about whats out there and whats possible.
theres probably thousands of places that we would consider heaven. where people live forever and get to do and be whoever they could possibly want without harming anything or anyone else. basically any idea is possible and nothing seems crazy. and im not even close to getting creative.
you could spend your whole life just thinking about this shit and never figure anything out. its just crazy.
there are basically an infinite amount of galaxy's out there, with billions of planets in each, and we are one planet out of billions in an infinite amount of galaxy's. and we cant even reach our nearest galaxy. we can hardly even make it to out little moon, we arent even close to being able to put humans on another planet yet. there are so many possibilities, actually an infinite amount of possibilities, for everything.
you can literally think of anything you want and there is an extremely good chance that somewhere it exists. an exact replica of me probably exists somewhere in the universe. there are probably organisms out there that are so sexually attractive to us that it would make out dicks explode. maybe organisms that can run thousands of miles per hour. living creatures the size of our planet. theres probably a subsance out there that would allow us to live for thousands of years, there are probably socities that have perfected time travel and can go back in time and hang out with themselves.
maybe there are aliens who are visiting us right now, living with us who are invisible to us because they are made up of a substance that only exists trillions and trillions of light years away from us that our eyes cant process and out bodies cant feel and we just pass through eachother, or maybe there is a whole nother earth within our earth that we cant see touch or be effected by us at all because of what its made of. a whole new landscape mixed with ours, like i may be sitting down where someone else is right now but i have no idea about it. there is probably a speed millions of times faster than light, that people can travel, we cant say its not possible because we are dumb as fuck, we basically have 0 intelegence at all about whats out there and whats possible.
theres probably thousands of places that we would consider heaven. where people live forever and get to do and be whoever they could possibly want without harming anything or anyone else. basically any idea is possible and nothing seems crazy. and im not even close to getting creative.
you could spend your whole life just thinking about this shit and never figure anything out. its just crazy.
haha yep... you said it perfect^^^^^ theres infinite possibilities
actually "we" know a lot about the universe we are able to "assemble" in our minds. You just happen to not know shit about yours.
Quoting foodisfun from Oct 18 2009 8:20:18:
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes
was waiting for it."Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes
BTW props for the OP, def some awesome imagery.
Quoting XtRemE11 from Oct 20 2009 4:02:35:
this is just too much for humans to think about, there is no possible way we are even close to understanding the universe. the extremely small amount that we do understand is mind blowing enough. everything we think we know about science physics and the universe could all be completely wrong.
there are basically an infinite amount of galaxy's out there, with billions of planets in each, and we are one planet out of billions in an infinite amount of galaxy's. and we cant even reach our nearest galaxy. we can hardly even make it to out little moon, we arent even close to being able to put humans on another planet yet. there are so many possibilities, actually an infinite amount of possibilities, for everything.
you can literally think of anything you want and there is an extremely good chance that somewhere it exists. an exact replica of me probably exists somewhere in the universe. there are probably organisms out there that are so sexually attractive to us that it would make out dicks explode. maybe organisms that can run thousands of miles per hour. living creatures the size of our planet. theres probably a subsance out there that would allow us to live for thousands of years, there are probably socities that have perfected time travel and can go back in time and hang out with themselves.
maybe there are aliens who are visiting us right now, living with us who are invisible to us because they are made up of a substance that only exists trillions and trillions of light years away from us that our eyes cant process and out bodies cant feel and we just pass through eachother, or maybe there is a whole nother earth within our earth that we cant see touch or be effected by us at all because of what its made of. a whole new landscape mixed with ours, like i may be sitting down where someone else is right now but i have no idea about it. there is probably a speed millions of times faster than light, that people can travel, we cant say its not possible because we are dumb as fuck, we basically have 0 intelegence at all about whats out there and whats possible.
theres probably thousands of places that we would consider heaven. where people live forever and get to do and be whoever they could possibly want without harming anything or anyone else. basically any idea is possible and nothing seems crazy. and im not even close to getting creative.
you could spend your whole life just thinking about this shit and never figure anything out. its just crazy.
What you say is very interesting, however, it goes even farther than that. Everything that you are imagining has some kind of human relation to it. Running fast is an "earth" or "known world" trait, as much as is metter itself. Where it goes deeper is when you think about the stuff you cannot imagine, because it doesn't exist in our world.this is just too much for humans to think about, there is no possible way we are even close to understanding the universe. the extremely small amount that we do understand is mind blowing enough. everything we think we know about science physics and the universe could all be completely wrong.
there are basically an infinite amount of galaxy's out there, with billions of planets in each, and we are one planet out of billions in an infinite amount of galaxy's. and we cant even reach our nearest galaxy. we can hardly even make it to out little moon, we arent even close to being able to put humans on another planet yet. there are so many possibilities, actually an infinite amount of possibilities, for everything.
you can literally think of anything you want and there is an extremely good chance that somewhere it exists. an exact replica of me probably exists somewhere in the universe. there are probably organisms out there that are so sexually attractive to us that it would make out dicks explode. maybe organisms that can run thousands of miles per hour. living creatures the size of our planet. theres probably a subsance out there that would allow us to live for thousands of years, there are probably socities that have perfected time travel and can go back in time and hang out with themselves.
maybe there are aliens who are visiting us right now, living with us who are invisible to us because they are made up of a substance that only exists trillions and trillions of light years away from us that our eyes cant process and out bodies cant feel and we just pass through eachother, or maybe there is a whole nother earth within our earth that we cant see touch or be effected by us at all because of what its made of. a whole new landscape mixed with ours, like i may be sitting down where someone else is right now but i have no idea about it. there is probably a speed millions of times faster than light, that people can travel, we cant say its not possible because we are dumb as fuck, we basically have 0 intelegence at all about whats out there and whats possible.
theres probably thousands of places that we would consider heaven. where people live forever and get to do and be whoever they could possibly want without harming anything or anyone else. basically any idea is possible and nothing seems crazy. and im not even close to getting creative.
you could spend your whole life just thinking about this shit and never figure anything out. its just crazy.
Try this for example: Think about NOTHING. You'll either be thinking about a complete black or a complete white, which for instance arn't nothing! Its impossible to see nothing because we've never seen it, let alone experienced it. The sky is always black etc....
So apply that to other life forms and you've basically got your point: that there might be lifeforms that thrive on things completely different than what we think life should have to appear. And other intelligence that wouldn't be comprehensible with our. Intelligence so different we wouldn't probably percieve it as intelligence, because we wouldn't notice anything.
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Quoting A.0.spin from Oct 20 2009 6:14:45:
actually "we" know a lot about the universe we are able to "assemble" in our minds. You just happen to not know shit about yours.
who are you talking about?
actually "we" know a lot about the universe we are able to "assemble" in our minds. You just happen to not know shit about yours.
I think a lot of people in this tread would benefit from reading a little non fiction. It will help you to focus your imagination and have a better idea of the universe.
And to this kid I am quoting, you tear a kid down then you offer nothing. -K for you.
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Quoting Tasche from Oct 20 2009 10:19:05:
who are you talking about?
I think a lot of people in this tread would benefit from reading a little non fiction. It will help you to focus your imagination and have a better idea of the universe.
And to this kid I am quoting, you tear a kid down then you offer nothing. -K for you.
read some of my posts in this thread... i offered a lot of resources. I think I have a decent understanding of current scientific trends if not only the overarching effect they will have on human society. However, I am not by any means claiming to be an expertwho are you talking about?
I think a lot of people in this tread would benefit from reading a little non fiction. It will help you to focus your imagination and have a better idea of the universe.
And to this kid I am quoting, you tear a kid down then you offer nothing. -K for you.
in fact tasche i have agreed with most of what you have been saying
Quoting nomensteven$ from Oct 18 2009 4:43:08:
what confuses me is how does space end? is there a wall there?
what confuses me is how does space end? is there a wall there?
I have often wondered the same thing.
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Quoting A.0.spin from Oct 20 2009 10:57:33:
in fact tasche i have agreed with most of what you have been saying
ya I reread your posts and I agree, It seams like no one has read any of the longer posts and are happy to speculate with out considering what has been said.
in fact tasche i have agreed with most of what you have been saying
Did you read Visions by Kaku? A lot of the stuff he said in that has come true. Pretty smart guy, shameless self promoter, but he can back it up.
btw your karma has been restored.
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also has anyone seen this article?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews
Pertains pretty well to what we are talking about. I don't know what to think about this. I don't know what to think about this.
Please ignore that it came from Fox News it is legit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews
Pertains pretty well to what we are talking about. I don't know what to think about this. I don't know what to think about this.
Please ignore that it came from Fox News it is legit.
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Here's another mind fuck. So that group of solar systems is about 13 Billion light years away. Meaning we are looking at that system 13 Billion years ago. Our solar system is about 5 (rounding up highly just for reference) billion years old. That means we can see them, but they cannot see us, dude to the time difference. That is what blows my mind.
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meant to say due to the time difference, not dude haha
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Quoting LamerthanFDR from Oct 20 2009 11:35:07:
Here's another mind fuck. So that group of solar systems is about 13 Billion light years away. Meaning we are looking at that system 13 Billion years ago. Our solar system is about 5 (rounding up highly just for reference) billion years old. That means we can see them, but they cannot see us, dude to the time difference. That is what blows my mind.
that is wild to think about. To them the milky way just looks like a big cloud if it even exists 13 billion years ago. It really does blow your mind, what is the point of all this what the fuck is actually going on? Just trying to ponder the why of existence... Here's another mind fuck. So that group of solar systems is about 13 Billion light years away. Meaning we are looking at that system 13 Billion years ago. Our solar system is about 5 (rounding up highly just for reference) billion years old. That means we can see them, but they cannot see us, dude to the time difference. That is what blows my mind.
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Quoting nomensteven$ from Oct 18 2009 4:43:08:
what confuses me is how does space end? is there a wall there?
my guess would be that at some point.. if space does end.. at the "end" there is just such an immense pressure that nothing can expand any further.. so essentially there is "wall" but not a physical form.. more like just a barrier that cant be pushed any further.. what confuses me is how does space end? is there a wall there?
Quoting mike720b from Oct 20 2009 12:06:13:
my guess would be that at some point.. if space does end.. at the "end" there is just such an immense pressure that nothing can expand any further.. so essentially there is "wall" but not a physical form.. more like just a barrier that cant be pushed any further..
pressure is caused by atoms of either liquid or gas acting on a surface. In the vacuum of space there is no pressure so there is no pressure barrier at the end of space. Did no one read my previous posts? my guess would be that at some point.. if space does end.. at the "end" there is just such an immense pressure that nothing can expand any further.. so essentially there is "wall" but not a physical form.. more like just a barrier that cant be pushed any further..
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Quoting LamerthanFDR from Oct 20 2009 11:35:07:
Here's another mind fuck. So that group of solar systems is about 13 Billion light years away. Meaning we are looking at that system 13 Billion years ago. Our solar system is about 5 (rounding up highly just for reference) billion years old. That means we can see them, but they cannot see us, dude to the time difference. That is what blows my mind.
i believe what we are seeing is light from that galaxy that starts resides approximately 13 billion light years away from us. Relative to us this light appears to be 13 billion years old, from our reference frame. From a fixed reference frame this age could be slightly older as these objects are moving away from each other and time dialation in effect means that while time advances at a steady rate, in order for light to reach these distances in the same ammount of time its wavelength must increase. This is I believe called its redshift and allows us to measure both its age and distance relatively. I don't think however we would see any sort of life since at 13 billion years old, giant stars were barely starting to go supernova; the process by which heavier elements such as carbon, silicon and germanium were first starting to be dispersed.Here's another mind fuck. So that group of solar systems is about 13 Billion light years away. Meaning we are looking at that system 13 Billion years ago. Our solar system is about 5 (rounding up highly just for reference) billion years old. That means we can see them, but they cannot see us, dude to the time difference. That is what blows my mind.
I could have stated this wrong considering I am only an armchair sepculator at present, but reading into this stuff will only make you more prepared for college coursework.
To Tasche, if you mean Kaku's physics of the impossible , yea i read that one. Was pretty cool, Brian Greene's the Elegant Universe is really cool too but somewhat more involved in the physics.
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Quoting foodisfun from Oct 18 2009 8:20:18:
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes
This is good.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes
i would love to be an astronomer if it didn't involve so much physics
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Quoting debrickshaw from Oct 19 2009 5:55:42:
correctionwe wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
Wow this is the third time I've been called out on this haha. Yes I realize that I made an error, however my point is still valid.
correctionwe wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
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